tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post2154495485114067466..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Finally... A Woman!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-60330884053268088952017-06-13T21:25:42.697-04:002017-06-13T21:25:42.697-04:00I have a story that can tie Wonder Woman and thing...I have a story that can tie Wonder Woman and things that piss off feminists together. Back in the day there was a local tv show in Cincinnati called the Bob Braun show. I was watching it one day when Lyle Wagoner came on to tout the new show he would be in called Wonder Woman. He was there because he was already well known from the Carol Burnett Show. Nobody knew who Lynda Carter was yet. So Braun asked Wagoner who would play the title character. I remember his answer to this day. "Her name's Lynda Carter." Wagoner said. "She's a lovely young woman" and he looked directly into the camera and smiled"and she has been blessed by the chest fairy." Apparently the Bob Braun Show didn't have a 3 second delay. I was so young I didn't even know what he meant. How 'bout that? ;)<br />GypsyTygerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-70477695821747085782017-06-13T10:50:34.881-04:002017-06-13T10:50:34.881-04:00tryanmax, I think that ascribes too much intellige...tryanmax, I think that ascribes too much intelligence and strange planning DC.<br /><br />I think the more likely answer is that (1) DC sucks at movies because they fundamentally misunderstand what entertains people, (2) Superman is particularly prone to being difficult to adapt because he's too powerful and too limited, (3) the quality of Wonder Woman is being overhyped and it benefits from comparison to the crap that came before it, and (4) they are describing the prior ones as a success for PR reasons.<br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-29193000257189683182017-06-13T10:25:53.438-04:002017-06-13T10:25:53.438-04:00Oh, and one other thing. I also saw a very strange...Oh, and one other thing. I also saw a very strange chart designed to put <i>WW</i> on top. It claimed that <i>WW</i> had the lowest 1st—2nd weekend drop off of <i>any</i> "modern" superhero movie, but the a list omitted 2008's <i>Iron Man</i> as well as others I can recall. I'm not saying <i>WW</i> didn't do best. I don't know, I didn't look. But it struck me that any definition of "modern" superhero film ought to include the film largely credited with launching the current craze.<br />tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-45712943958886658302017-06-13T10:18:39.101-04:002017-06-13T10:18:39.101-04:00Sorry I missed this yesterday. (Shame on you for p...Sorry I missed this yesterday. (Shame on you for posting late, Andrew!) <br /><br />I caught something weird about the box office reporting for <i>Wonder Woman</i> that got my conspiracy theory wheels turning, though please take this as tongue in cheek. <i>WW</i> had a good opening weekend and low second weekend drop-off. That's actually something to brag about. But apparently that wasn't good enough for reporters. <br /><br />It's to be expected that <i>WW</i> would be compared to <i>Batman v Superman</i> and <i>Suicide Squad</i>, being from the same studio. But much of the reporting on how <i>WW</i> outpaced it's franchise predecessors spoke of the earlier movies as if they were well-received. They were not. To be sure, they made money, but that was—IMO—a marketing success. The trailers got butts in the seats but audiences went away dissatisfied. <br /><br />So, my conspiracy brain gets to thinking, what if the studio hobbled the other two scripts just to make sure <i>WW</i> would shine? Like I said, it's the reporting that spun my conspiracy wheels. They're just treating <i>WW</i> weirdly. My logical brain says that Warner realized they couldn't stay in the superhero game if they launched yet another stinker. (And let's not forget <i>Man of Steel</i>.)tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-81169825944105683082017-06-12T21:47:34.044-04:002017-06-12T21:47:34.044-04:00Andrew,
You don't get it. It's about the c...Andrew,<br />You don't get it. It's about the clicks.Kithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453591141757808708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-52266159344664224022017-06-12T19:00:04.737-04:002017-06-12T19:00:04.737-04:00Good observations, especially the parts about brus...Good observations, especially the parts about brushing off real accomplishments and playing up the minor ones, and good for your daughter too! The biggest thing that's stuck with me about Wonder Woman's success so far ties into the quality part and has been noted by a few entertainment-minded conservatives as well: Jenkins focused on telling a good story that she wanted people to have fun watching and didn't let any kind of agenda get in the way. Not that it'll stop the overanalyzing crowd on both sides from spouting their nonsense, of course, but they never really impress anyone but their fellow travelers anyway. I've heard of articles along the lines of the ones you linked as well, Eric, though I haven't bothered to read them. Too burned out by everything having to be about angry identity politics. As for the movie itself, I might just catch it if I can find a good, cheap showing of it.<br /><br /> - DanielArgentGalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173296751792700318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-26886304831115134922017-06-12T17:52:17.430-04:002017-06-12T17:52:17.430-04:00As much fun as watching the standard pretzel logic...As much fun as watching the standard pretzel logic from the rah-rah feminists: the backlash from the movement's identity politics anger division. <br /><br />http://www.essence.com/culture/wonder-woman-black-feminism-palestine-israel-views<br /><br />http://msmagazine.com/blog/2017/06/05/will-wonder-woman-fat-femme-woman-color/EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-507474925886304022017-06-12T15:45:44.221-04:002017-06-12T15:45:44.221-04:00Anthony, Yes, I wrote the wrong number.Anthony, Yes, I wrote the wrong number.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-7350231866394437232017-06-12T15:44:43.321-04:002017-06-12T15:44:43.321-04:00GypsyTyger, That's another thing I don't g...GypsyTyger, That's another thing I don't get about feminists. They ignore the genuine accomplishments of women just so they can claim half-assed accomplishments as something earth shattering.<br /><br />Remember the debate about putting a woman on the currency and how all they come up with were half-assed leftists with no real accomplishments. They ignored hundreds of genuinely accomplished women to make that list too.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-14117757843110823892017-06-12T15:40:50.900-04:002017-06-12T15:40:50.900-04:00Bev, I don't get it either.
Here's an int...Bev, I don't get it either.<br /><br />Here's an interesting related story though. In the live action, <i>Beauty and the Beast</i>, feminist Emma Watson decides to be a heroine near the end. So what does she do? She strips off her dress, down to her underwear and races off on a horse.<br /><br />My daughter has pointed this out to a protofeminist at her school and the girl absolutely refused to accept that those were her underwear. It's the most illogical bit of denial imaginable, yet she refuses to accept it. This strikes me as exactly what is wrong with feminists and why they are such suckers -- because they will deny reality for dogmatic reasons.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-22423846723132076412017-06-12T13:05:04.336-04:002017-06-12T13:05:04.336-04:00Andrew,
Wonder Woman is by most accounts a good D...Andrew,<br /><br />Wonder Woman is by most accounts a good DC movie, something that hasn't happened since The Dark Knight. <br /><br />Also, it's made 435 million globally (205 is just the domestic number). <br /><br />Last of all success was by no means guaranteed for Wonder Woman. It could have easily been a Catwoman or Green Lantern type flop.<br /><br />http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=wonderwoman.htmAnthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-56409554065579058192017-06-12T12:43:11.522-04:002017-06-12T12:43:11.522-04:00Bev; "Why are female superheroes almost alway...Bev; "Why are female superheroes almost always dressed like dominatrixes or Vegas showgirls?"<br />Because they were created by men. ;<br />And Andrew, great list, but don't ever forget that Linda Hamilton killed Arnold Schwarzenegger after Arnold terminated her male protector.<br />GypsyTygerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-15386350907660189362017-06-12T11:59:08.618-04:002017-06-12T11:59:08.618-04:00Oh, where do I begin? Oh, yeah, I agree 100%. Tho...Oh, where do I begin? Oh, yeah, I agree 100%. Though not being a "super hero" devotee, I must say this movie had the great yet not so unique marketing campaign - IT'S WOMAN AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE YOU HATERS! Cue: people on social media that you can call "haters".<br /><br />Also, I think that it's hysterical that Wonder Woman was created by a male S&M "pervert" ans this one is costumed by women (no doubt) as a Dominatrix. Why are female super heroes almost always dressed like Dominatrices or Vegas showgirls? BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.com