tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post3588304840857333994..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Fun With Statistics and Tiny PigsAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-7603798882570705792015-10-21T20:45:00.926-04:002015-10-21T20:45:00.926-04:00Tryanmax - There are many interesting questions ab...Tryanmax - There are many interesting questions about "Clock Boy" that no one has openly explored. But, as you say, to explore is to be racist. To question is to be racist. As a matter of fact to ask any questions is an a micro-aggressive act that requires a safe space lest it cause the challenge of thinking outside one's sphere of knowledge.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-19698508129146372002015-10-21T16:47:49.226-04:002015-10-21T16:47:49.226-04:00P.S. - I'm not even saying that Fox News, as a...P.S. - I'm not even saying that Fox News, as an example, needs to do anything different from what the other networks are doing, so expense is a non-issue. As I've stated before, the biggest disappointment when it comes to right-wing new is that it's just left-wing news spun differently. They don't even challenge any of the purported facts. They just try to explain why you, the reader/listener/viewer should interpret those facts differently. <br /><br />Using "clock boy" as an example, imagine if this had happened before the internet allowed a number of real-life electrical engineers to publicly and widely call shenanigan's on the kid's "invention." ABC, CBS, and NBC would continue to report even this late into it that the kid really, truly invented a clock. FOX News, having apparently zero investigative resources, would concede that he really, truly invented a clock, but claim that he had no business doing so and should have known he'd be taken for a terrorist. Newsweek and TIME would feature the kid on their cover in an expose about Race in America®. A sidebar next to the article would offer a timeline of clock making. The New York Times would attribute the invention of the clock to Muhammad. Meanwhile, a small band of electrical engineers and clockmakers, working from a grainy photo published in the Enquirer, will attempt to raise questions about the legitimacy of the boy's invention, only to be excoriated as racists in the press. FOX News will concede that they are racists, but assert that they have a point. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-55301302593163746462015-10-21T16:13:25.832-04:002015-10-21T16:13:25.832-04:00Anthony, aren't you forgetting who it is who a...Anthony, aren't you forgetting who it is who are the gatekeepers of glamorous? The news networks are branding machines. It's their decision to promote talking heads over shoe-leather reporters. To the extent that talking heads brand themselves, it is either to get a network to notice them (and take over the branding work) or to remain consistent with how the network has decided to package them. <br /><br />And I'm not talking about those reporters who go to the far reaches of Africa, Asia, South America or the Middle East to dodge bullets, chase wildlife, and live in slums. Or even the ones who report Europe to Americans. Those reporters are in it for the adventure/perpetual vacation and don't generally have trouble finding outlets anyway. I'm talking strictly about the the domestic side of things, which is as cushy and glamorous as the networks are willing to make it. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-70232815926526215852015-10-21T14:58:48.761-04:002015-10-21T14:58:48.761-04:00Great comments today. I agree that the whole "...Great comments today. I agree that the whole "Hispanics" grouping is too complex to really understand what is going on. From those who I meet, there is a wide cultural gap between many Hispanics and Asians. The latter puts a lot of stress on education while the former not as much. That doesn't mean they are lazy or dumb, just not as much stress or pressure to go to college especially for girls/women. We had a Hispanic physician assistant working for us for several years. She was the first capitalistic communist I ever met but that is a story for a different day. She told me she was pressured NOT to go to college. Her family wanted her to get married and have children by 16. They warned her she was going to die a childless spinster.<br /><br />Many Asians have the opposite problem and stems from their culture. At least in China, children are expected to give 10% of what they make back to their parents. Basically, this is your retirement program and the more successful your child, the better your retirement. The pressure can be intense to the point of suicide. When I was in China, a member in the government told me that he was envious of the relationship between American kids and parents, where they could be close and friendly. It wasn't that way in China. Kids were forced to take care of their parents but didn't like it and made for an antagonistic relationship.Koshcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00552108950848576633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-64937491679597383212015-10-21T14:38:17.136-04:002015-10-21T14:38:17.136-04:00Well, we're not going to have Crazy Uncle Joe ...Well, we're not going to have Crazy Uncle Joe to kick around anymore...darn it. I was so hoping to hear more of his nuggets of wisdom.Critchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07106908233705403513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-82805955390424415762015-10-21T14:19:37.506-04:002015-10-21T14:19:37.506-04:00Oh sad. I was kind of hoping Joe would bless us w...Oh sad. I was kind of hoping Joe would bless us with his wisdom.<br /><br />Sorry there's no article today... super busy.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-67948022103013858512015-10-21T14:03:25.117-04:002015-10-21T14:03:25.117-04:00Paul Ryan will likely be the next Speaker.Paul Ryan will likely be the next Speaker.Kithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453591141757808708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-12957448874233216832015-10-21T12:56:56.553-04:002015-10-21T12:56:56.553-04:00Hillary's VP nominee has to be less charismati...Hillary's VP nominee has to be less charismatic than her. That is a tall order.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-25884538415518550472015-10-21T12:29:48.293-04:002015-10-21T12:29:48.293-04:00*****BREAKING NEWS****
IT'S NO GO FOR JOE!!!
...<b>*****BREAKING NEWS****</b><br /><br />IT'S NO GO FOR JOE!!!<br /><br />Joe Biden just announced that he won't be running for President after all. Hillary must have gotten to him and threatened him with something. <br />BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-56064392110228844172015-10-21T12:16:11.152-04:002015-10-21T12:16:11.152-04:00Tryanmax,
Shoeleather reporting is expensive, tim...Tryanmax,<br /><br />Shoeleather reporting is expensive, time consuming, unglamorous, sometimes dangerous and one's ability to get rich/famous is limited (one doesn't have as much time/ability to brand build/monetize as talking heads).<br /><br />I suspect on the conservative side activists will do more legwork than self-style conservative journalists will. <br /><br />IMHO reporting is of limited value because nowadays everybody reads whatever news site whose offerings tend to fit their beliefs (if I want to read a pro-Trump story or a pro-Obama story I know which websites to go to).Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-61987402182135765182015-10-21T09:37:11.645-04:002015-10-21T09:37:11.645-04:00Kit, the right wing media has a hard time understa...Kit, the right wing media has a hard time understanding how the internet works. "What the [<i>insert boogeyman</i>] won't tell you..." headlines work for clickbait, so they probably have a lot of clicks telling them that it works. Plus, it keeps the gold-seller/gold-buyer advertisers happy. <br /><br />The story-in-a-headline approach probably generates fewer clicks, but it has the power to spread a narrative more quickly and effectively. Putting his contortions of the truth aside, this is what Matt Drudge has figured out.<br /><br />But more than headline/clickbait writing, the biggest problem I see with the right wing media is that they don't know how to tell their own stories. They only spin the same stories the left is telling in another direction. This is a very low point in time for real investigative journalism, and there are two things causing that. On one hand, the leftist media suppresses any dirt on leftist politicians. On the other hand, the right wing media is failing to provide a platform for journalist investigators.<br /><br />The media landscape could change overnight if one of the major players simply told its reporters to find stories no one else is telling. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-82711581651394528222015-10-20T21:47:49.715-04:002015-10-20T21:47:49.715-04:00Meh. The kid will be another Elian Gonzalez.Meh. The kid will be another Elian Gonzalez.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-26231871123508633222015-10-20T21:35:37.172-04:002015-10-20T21:35:37.172-04:00Bev,
I should say, here is also a lesson for the ...Bev,<br /><br />I should say, here is also a lesson for the Right when talking about his family:<br />Instead of "WHAT THE MEDIA WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT AHMED THE 'CLOCK BOY'!!!!" go with "Ahmed "The Clock Boy"'s father has radical Islamist ties."<br /><br />Most people tend to tune out the former and pay attention to the latter. Kithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453591141757808708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-657968437871634962015-10-20T20:44:45.836-04:002015-10-20T20:44:45.836-04:00So Ahmed Mohammed, the Clock Boy from my home town...So Ahmed Mohammed, the Clock Boy from my home town high school and his family are moving to Qatar. Irving can now breath a sigh of relief. Oh, and right before meeting with Obama this week, he got to meet with another evil dictator in Sudan. I can't wait to see what this kid can do with a real clock bomb...BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-64585589340641500432015-10-20T10:09:52.872-04:002015-10-20T10:09:52.872-04:00Anthony - From what I understand about the Common ...Anthony - From what I understand about the Common Core curriculum, even a combined PhD from Harvard in English Lit, Mathematics, History & Physics doesn't help when your kids need help with the homework. Sorry.<br /><br />But with the exception of Indian and Pakistani Asian students, parents are no more likely to speak English than Hispanic students.<br /><br />Okay, it really is about parenting, priorities, and motivation. BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-32269869211642399712015-10-20T10:05:20.691-04:002015-10-20T10:05:20.691-04:00Bev, The reason they don't include Asians is b...Bev, The reason they don't include Asians is because Asians put the lie to their favorite theories. The reason minorities do poorly is (1) bad parenting and (2) lousy culture which denigrates education and hard work. But that is not the answers the race lobby wants to reach. They want to reach (1) racism and (2) lack of money.<br /><br />But Asians show that racism and lack of money aren't the issue or else they couldn't succeed any better than blacks and Hispanics. So including them ruins the whole game because it makes it impossible to argue that racism and money are the issues. That's why they get ignored.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-81053002323875481852015-10-20T10:04:39.920-04:002015-10-20T10:04:39.920-04:00Bev, I think the reason why minorities means "...Bev, I think the reason why minorities means "Blacks and Hispanics" is a case of opportunism. As I said to Anthony, I suspect the lagging figures for Hispanics is a 1st generation issue that will go away rather quickly. But for the time being, it provides a screen which does two things: 1) it obscures the negative impact of broken families b/c leftists can point to largely intact Hispanic families, and 2) it allows liberals to focus on skin color and white racism as the culprit, despite the fact that Hispanic is not a race or a skin color. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-14587362649331764552015-10-20T09:58:26.222-04:002015-10-20T09:58:26.222-04:00I concur with Anthony's observations on Hispan...I concur with Anthony's observations on Hispanics. For one, there is no Hispanic community any more than there is a White community. As that population grows, the concept of an Hispanic community will come to be seen as absurd. <br /><br />It makes sense that the biggest hindrance to Hispanic students is that their parents can only help them so much. That is a single-generation problem--two generations tops--that will vanish before our eyes. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-45987179455626642222015-10-20T09:50:21.796-04:002015-10-20T09:50:21.796-04:00Many MANY Asian restaurants present this scenario ...Many MANY Asian restaurants present this scenario when you walk in. Mom and Pop are working, making the place work. The kids are sitting at a table in the restaurant doing homework. <br /><br />Since they don't fit the model, Democrats ignore them.LLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538854359365988863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-45332337945371522842015-10-20T04:17:49.993-04:002015-10-20T04:17:49.993-04:00Bev,
I agree with your premise, but its worth not...Bev,<br /><br />I agree with your premise, but its worth noting that given that Asians are only roughly 14% of minority students, including them would lessen the achievement gap between non-white and white students, not make it disappear.<br /><br />The Hispanic community isn't really a thing (based on what I saw during my time in Guatemala and Colombia, there is tremendous variance in public school quality, cultural focus on education and average student performance in Latin America). Don't know if the same is true in Asia. It would be interesting to see if those disparities are reflected here in the US or if all groups have the same average performance.<br /><br />As I've said before, the problem blacks have isn't bad schools (in many cases) but families (often single moms) who aren't pushing kids to excel either because of a shortage of time (mom working multiple low wage jobs to pay the bills) and/or because they just see school as 'free' babysitting. I'm not saying that schools are perfect, but the big problem is that they are being forced to try to compensate for the collapse of black families.<br /><br />Part of the problem for Hispanics may be that they can't help their kids much. My wife is Hispanic (Garifuna from Honduras) and didn't graduate from high school (started working in a clothing factory young) and her English is much shakier than that of our kids (both fluent English speakers and my youngest has a very, very rudimentary grasp of Spanish) so I'm the one who winds up helping them with homework. Tell the truth even I struggle sometimes (thank God for the internet). Common Core is no joke.<br /><br />As always I tip my hat to Asians. Their focus on education pays off in spades.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.com