tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post4150392820752508298..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Commentarama Goes LeftAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-39461659837791147102018-03-09T16:33:47.443-05:002018-03-09T16:33:47.443-05:00On CNN, -and to continue my theme from yesterday- ...On CNN, -and to continue my theme from yesterday- it must be incomprehensibly taxing and mentally scarring to go through life as such an incompetent boob.<br />Ah, the left...I'd cry for them if I cared. But I don't. So, I won't. <br />Besides, I'm too busy preparing for tomorrow night.Rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190297078043033514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-39768977064370421522018-03-09T15:06:09.725-05:002018-03-09T15:06:09.725-05:00"What fresh hell is this?" LOL!"What fresh hell is this?" LOL!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-2109916265340319282018-03-09T15:04:49.036-05:002018-03-09T15:04:49.036-05:00I was at the wound clinic today and they had CNN o...I was at the wound clinic today and they had CNN on. They had an "expert" who was whining that Trump never should have agreed to a meeting because that was giving the North Korean what they want.<br /><br />So...<br /><br />No shooting...<br />No shouting...<br />No cursing...<br />No threats...<br />No taunting...<br />No meeting...<br />But DO SOMETHING!!! <br /><br />What's left? Send anonymous hate mail?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-67415498765571826692018-03-09T14:00:33.914-05:002018-03-09T14:00:33.914-05:00Tryanmax - I think that is the rightest take on th...Tryanmax - I think that is the rightest take on the possible Nork sit down as a Stormy distraction thing since Russia, Russia, Russia! Stormy is just too important to a possible disruption in the time/space continuum of world peace that if it doesn't get off the front page, the world will be vaporized within minutes.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-23113466251066591492018-03-09T12:55:38.694-05:002018-03-09T12:55:38.694-05:00All I know is that the only reason Trump has agree...All I know is that the only reason Trump has agreed to a sit-down with Kim Jong Un is to distract from the Stormy Daniels scandal. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-450057122711572502018-03-08T23:18:53.519-05:002018-03-08T23:18:53.519-05:00Yeah, I used an emoji! So sue me....🍸Yeah, I used an emoji! So sue me....🍸BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-79956574862111246442018-03-08T23:14:09.681-05:002018-03-08T23:14:09.681-05:00Wait, we can agree to disagree? What fresh hell is...Wait, we can agree to disagree? What fresh hell is this? We must be in lockstep or all is....oh, wait, this isn't Twitter, is it? Nevermind...😇BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-8090528387276246302018-03-08T23:02:36.410-05:002018-03-08T23:02:36.410-05:00On a roll indeed. LOL! All right. I think we may...On a roll indeed. LOL! All right. I think we may just need to agree to disagree on this one. Good night, my friend.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-66363788974533227232018-03-08T22:48:23.503-05:002018-03-08T22:48:23.503-05:00I say nice things about Trump all the time. I tho...I say nice things about Trump all the time. I thought he was on track to win the nomination back when you were convinced he was a side show. <br /><br />I predicted he would win the general back when Hillary collapsed and classified emails resurfaced in the news because as I noted earlier (back when Trump dominated coverage) the most covered of the two candidates always lagged behind in the polls.<br /><br />Isn't believing someone will win nice? I think Trump will win reelection. There, I'm on a roll.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-49510360235328033232018-03-08T22:29:49.659-05:002018-03-08T22:29:49.659-05:00Anthony,
credit is fine but let's not kid our...Anthony,<br /><br /><i>credit is fine but let's not kid ourselves in a rush to give said credit. </i><br /><br />Again, no one here said they expect this to be a success. You are the one who tried to insert that straw man into the discussion so you could shoot it down. It's not real.<br /><br />Secondly, your very argument requires credit to Trump because you credit the sanctions Trump got for bringing the Koreans to the table.<br /><br />Third, if giving credit is fine... then try it. I dare you. Say something nice about Trump.<br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-38458953432181167852018-03-08T22:17:08.762-05:002018-03-08T22:17:08.762-05:00Repeat after me: credit is fine but let's not ...Repeat after me: credit is fine but let's not kid ourselves in a rush to give said credit.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-21932022196422763962018-03-08T22:15:01.591-05:002018-03-08T22:15:01.591-05:00Andrew,
There have been US-NK talks and deals bef...Andrew,<br /><br />There have been US-NK talks and deals before. <br /><br />https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron<br /><br />In 1994, faced with North Korea’s announced intent to withdraw from the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), which requires non-nuclear weapon states to forswear the development and acquisition of nuclear weapons, the United States and North Korea signed the Agreed Framework. Under this agreement, Pyongyang committed to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program in exchange for aid.<br /><br />Following the collapse of this agreement in 2002, North Korea claimed that it had withdrawn from the NPT in January 2003 and once again began operating its nuclear facilities.<br /><br />The second major diplomatic effort were the Six-Party Talks initiated in August of 2003 which involved China, Japan, North Korea, Russia, South Korea, and the United States. In between periods of stalemate and crisis, those talks arrived at critical breakthroughs in 2005, when North Korea pledged to abandon “all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs” and return to the NPT, and in 2007, when the parties agreed on a series of steps to implement that 2005 agreement.<br /><br />Those talks, however, broke down in 2009 following disagreements over verification and an internationally condemned North Korea rocket launch. Pyongyang has since stated that it would never return to the talks and is no longer bound by their agreements. The other five parties state that they remain committed to the talks, and have called for Pyongyang to recommit to its 2005 denuclearization pledge.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-44231098166194234742018-03-08T22:13:52.135-05:002018-03-08T22:13:52.135-05:00Bev, You're welcome. It's true.
That wou...Bev, You're welcome. It's true.<br /><br />That would be great if you want to start posting articles again. :)<br /><br />The adulting thing stinks. I'm dealing with a 12 year old who discovered the Island of Lost Boys and has lost her fricken mind.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-23227462312268819212018-03-08T22:03:58.334-05:002018-03-08T22:03:58.334-05:00Andrew - I already HAVE a sewing machine, and I us...Andrew - I already HAVE a sewing machine, and I used to know how to use it too! Thanks! Btw, I want to start posting again. I have few articles in the works. Life has been a lesson in this adulting thing which I am not too good yet. I am working on it though...'bout time, amirite? BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-82155542285495243642018-03-08T22:00:24.338-05:002018-03-08T22:00:24.338-05:00Anthony, That's what you started your argument...Anthony, That's what you started your argument with. And let me point out that Korea is not core to my article. It's one dozens of points all saying the same thing.<br /><br /><i>I stated the escalating sanctions brought NK to the negotiating table. They always do. </i><br /><br />When have they ever come to the table before? That's been the issue since W Bush, they never came to the table. Not under Bush. Not under Obama. Also, it was Team Trump that got China and Russia to agree to the sanctions -- another historic first.<br /><br />Repeat after me: sometimes, Trump deserves credit for good things... sometimes, Trump deserves credit for good things...AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-63385019764569305012018-03-08T21:53:01.141-05:002018-03-08T21:53:01.141-05:00Bev, I concur. I'm cautiously optimistic and,...Bev, I concur. I'm cautiously optimistic and, if he does pull something off, he deserves a lot of credit for finally making the North Koreans realize that the threat to take them out is real. They've never really believed it before.<br /><br />I love Nikky Hailey. I think she's doing a fantastic job.<br /><br />You want a prize for International Women's Day? Would a sewing machine be tone deaf? ;)<br /><br />Ok, seriously, how's this: I offer my respect. Not because you're a woman, but because you're smart, clever and funny. Your comments (and articles) are consistently fun to read and offer brilliant insights. Thanks for sharing them! :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-52193488366916921412018-03-08T21:48:06.965-05:002018-03-08T21:48:06.965-05:00Andrew,
I stated the escalating sanctions brought...Andrew,<br /><br />I stated the escalating sanctions brought NK to the negotiating table. They always do. <br /><br />If you think the Olympics were irrelevant, fine. That is not a core part of my argument.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-6531827562770448562018-03-08T21:45:50.405-05:002018-03-08T21:45:50.405-05:00Andrew - I say again, what it did do was bring the...Andrew - I say again, what it did do was bring the issue of a divided Korea back into the public domain. Unlike Vietnam that reunited fairly quickly, Korea has been divided with a Berlin-style wall of death since the '50's and the Eisenhower years that the US has been militarizing, btw.<br /><br />But if Trump can scare the Norks to even talk, you are right, he deserves some credit. Frankly, Trump scares the crap out of the world, but if this is the result? Well, heck yeah! Of course, it could all end in nuclear holocaust, but...cautious, but optimistic is better than coddle and hope nothing happens. Who knows, maybe Iran will see the light too! Btw, Nikky Haley is kickin' butt at the UN...give her some credit. It IS International Women's Day...where's my prize???BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-27727469391372083812018-03-08T21:41:19.616-05:002018-03-08T21:41:19.616-05:00Bev, Libya had a nuclear program but it never deve...Bev, Libya had a nuclear program but it never developed nukes so it never had a nuclear shield. It gave up its WMDs in a bid for international legitimacy in 2003. As you pointed out its conventional weapons were not much of a deterrent to other countries bothered by the brutal way it fought its civil war several years later.<br /><br />That is why I say the famously brutal (and weak and small) NK won't give up its nukes. Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-46345375052561867152018-03-08T21:37:23.796-05:002018-03-08T21:37:23.796-05:00Bev, It was already on the stage before that. Rem...Bev, It was already on the stage before that. Remember all the carrier battle groups, the missile tests, the alert in Hawaii, the Chinese getting involves, the Russians sending troops, the UN voting for more sanctions, the Japanese and Philippines and others joining with us (12 nations).<br /><br />What the Olympics did was give our wishful thinkers a chance to hope that the agreement between the two Koreas to compete together would somehow lead to peace, love and understanding. That's it. All PR that didn't affect anyone's position except the MSM, who wanted this to mean something.<br /><br />During the Olympics there were more talks about having talks, but those went nowhere.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-32567434589052338862018-03-08T21:30:51.049-05:002018-03-08T21:30:51.049-05:00Of course, I disagree. The Olympics had nothing t...Of course, I disagree. The Olympics had nothing to do with bringing Korea to the table. Those decisions were made long before. Crediting the Olympics would be like crediting McDonald's because that's where the two representatives met, or crediting March Madness because that was on television. The Olympics simply became a convenient television background... they had no significance beyond that. And trying to give them significance is just anti-Trump-obsessiveness.<br /><br />In terms of the chance of success of the talks, none of us are saying it's going to happen or even likely. Note phrases like "if he can pull this off". BUT he has achieved more with this talk than Obama did in 8 years or W Bush. That deserves some credit.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-53730176572581250442018-03-08T21:26:43.666-05:002018-03-08T21:26:43.666-05:00Anthony - I agree that the Olympics brought the &#...Anthony - I agree that the Olympics brought the 'Korea' issue to the global public stage. I do remember Libya and I remember even during the Bush II years when Gaddafi backed down gor fear of another bombing. Remmeber when Reagan bombed the crap out of Tripoli? when W went to war after 9/11, Gaddafi was the first to declare "believe the US when they say they will bomb 'cause they will. I will shut up and sit this one out. I will wait for some other less bomb-y President that I can deal with." Or something like that...BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-56819221931439698472018-03-08T21:17:25.637-05:002018-03-08T21:17:25.637-05:00The Olympics allowed conversations between high ra...The Olympics allowed conversations between high ranking Korean officials that otherwise wouldn't have happened. Do you disagree? Really?<br /><br />I think the something is part of their standard stall for time. Nukes are pretty much the only guaranteed get out of invasion free card. It would be very surprising for NK to give them up. Everyone remembers Libya. Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-79297444145995684742018-03-08T21:10:34.408-05:002018-03-08T21:10:34.408-05:00Bev, You know which one matters more on the left.
...Bev, You know which one matters more on the left.<br /><br />Obama getting his own show, huh? Barf. I'll stick to literally anything else. He is one of the driest, least interesting, most narcissistic people on the planet. Hopefully, he shacks up with Snookie.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-56207474483752346432018-03-08T21:06:45.189-05:002018-03-08T21:06:45.189-05:00Anthony, The Olympics? Really? Wow.Anthony, The Olympics? Really? Wow.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com