tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post4796396825676629262..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Repealing BaucusAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-20154492638221613772009-10-29T19:05:47.826-04:002009-10-29T19:05:47.826-04:00No Patti, it makes you an American! ;-)No Patti, it makes you an American! ;-)AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-24280293503311818382009-10-29T18:35:50.502-04:002009-10-29T18:35:50.502-04:00this gave me a shiver of happiness. wait, does th...this gave me a shiver of happiness. wait, does that put me in the chris mathews weirdo camp?!<br><br>if the republicans care about their jobs, they will come up with something as a replacement. could we get that lucky? holy smokes, the very thought of it...pattihttp://www.notawonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-49796763375851148272009-10-29T10:44:31.203-04:002009-10-29T10:44:31.203-04:00Stan, I've been working on an article about NY...Stan, I've been working on an article about NY23, but it's not done yet. Lots of moving parts.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-15630258553443674282009-10-29T10:31:49.810-04:002009-10-29T10:31:49.810-04:00Definitely! We don’t need to throw the baby out wi...Definitely! We don’t need to throw the baby out with the bath water, but it doesn’t hurt to make them think that we will. NY 23 is a prime example of conservatives pushing back and will help to focus the RNC in the long run. Conservatism!StanHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-52945654396254919202009-10-29T10:01:26.172-04:002009-10-29T10:01:26.172-04:00The leadership certainly Stan, but don't tar t...The leadership certainly Stan, but don't tar the whole party. The challenge right now is to take back the party and to push them in the right direction.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-90712130207716109462009-10-29T09:45:09.997-04:002009-10-29T09:45:09.997-04:00Mega, Andrew: In my mind the reason the Republican...Mega, Andrew: In my mind the reason the Republicans don’t attack this monstrosity as suggested, because they basically believe in the premise that Washington knows best. If we can see the coarse to defeat this amongst other Barry bills, so can they.StanHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-50536875976139620462009-10-29T09:21:37.965-04:002009-10-29T09:21:37.965-04:00Anon, Thanks. Let's hope they do. Call your ...Anon, Thanks. Let's hope they do. Call your Congressman!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-23851081204127466202009-10-29T09:21:09.824-04:002009-10-29T09:21:09.824-04:00Thanks Mega. I hope they do too, because I'm ...Thanks Mega. I hope they do too, because I'm not hearing these kinds of attacks. They seem to be making points that get the right wing of the right wing upset, but I have yet to see any attacks that will strike a chord with the middle or even the moderate left -- both of whom are ripe for disappointment if we point out that their expectations aren't right.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-75932626139283362422009-10-29T09:19:27.865-04:002009-10-29T09:19:27.865-04:00Stan, I hope it never comes to us needing to repea...Stan, I hope it never comes to us needing to repeal this. I think you're right that they'll get something, but it's starting to look like it won't be anything this extensive, intrusive, or expensive.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-81147956430232834662009-10-29T09:06:38.924-04:002009-10-29T09:06:38.924-04:00Excellent series on the Baucus Bill. Let's pra...Excellent series on the Baucus Bill. Let's pray the Republicans read this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-59984509001532177472009-10-29T09:04:38.104-04:002009-10-29T09:04:38.104-04:00Great analysis! I hope the Republicans listen to ...Great analysis! I hope the Republicans listen to what you've said and act on this. This sounds like a really good plan. I'm with Writer X, why can't they see this?MegaTrollhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03234420338804013858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-89155754685970119252009-10-28T22:50:50.983-04:002009-10-28T22:50:50.983-04:00They will get something passed, they must to save ...They will get something passed, they must to save their Messiah, Barry. Another great synopsis Andrew. It would be better to diminish this monstrosity as much as possible. If we allow Washington politicians to experience this kind of power, they’ll never give it up, right or left.StanHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-91287864650987275422009-10-28T21:33:43.600-04:002009-10-28T21:33:43.600-04:00Lawhawk, I'm glad to hear that Laffer agrees w...Lawhawk, I'm glad to hear that Laffer agrees with me. He's a good man.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-72864932540544504702009-10-28T21:27:20.913-04:002009-10-28T21:27:20.913-04:00Andrew: Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you....Andrew: Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you. By "undo," Laffer was discussing pretty much the same thing you're saying. The point he was making was that it's eminently fixable once everyone comes to his senses.LawHawkSFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-44071256365720132692009-10-28T20:26:53.970-04:002009-10-28T20:26:53.970-04:00Thanks Writer X. I'd be happy to make this re...Thanks Writer X. I'd be happy to make this required reading, especially for Republican politicians, but I'm not sure they can read.<br><br>I don't know why they aren't making many of these arguments. I fear that they just don't realize they are out there to be made. And even when they do attack this plan, they talk about abstracts like socialism and scoring. . . they need to learn to break this down into arguments that will appeal to (and make sense to) people who don't care about the minutia of Congress.<br><br>And really, you're right about the states where these programs are failing. Republicans from those states should be leading the charge. Yet, we get silence.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-43510905571767047912009-10-28T20:18:34.382-04:002009-10-28T20:18:34.382-04:00Andrew, I wonder why we don't hear more Republ...Andrew, I wonder why we don't hear more Republicans talking more about the failed programs in some of the states like Hawaii and Maine? These are smaller versions of disasters that will be extrapolated across the country if this monster passes. You'd think the people (and politicians) in those states would be the loudest opponents of Obamascare.<br><br>There are so many reasons not to support this bill, as you've pointed out, and I rarely hear any of these reasons or even read about them. That's disappointing. <br><br>It's good to know that repeal is an option but I really hope it doesn't get to that point.<br><br>This should be required reading! Thanks, Andrew.Writer Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16505411188186283813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-83086877116717973172009-10-28T19:24:21.527-04:002009-10-28T19:24:21.527-04:00Lawhawk, Technically, that's correct, but poli...Lawhawk, Technically, that's correct, but politically, this is going to require a lot of ground work to be laid. Remember, you've got to build the pressure to get 60 votes in the Senate, and you need a President who will sign the repeal. That's why I think "replace" rather than repeal is a much better answer -- it lets everyone declare a kind of victory (except the hopefully un-elected Obama).AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-84600802619082735112009-10-28T19:15:24.173-04:002009-10-28T19:15:24.173-04:00Andrew: Arthur Laffer said he could undo the legi...Andrew: Arthur Laffer said he could undo the legislation with a Republican majority or a strong bipartisan Congress over a long weekend. How long it would take to fix Medicare after it's been robbed for Obamacare is another question entirely, since it's impossible to bankrupt an already bankrupt system.LawHawkSFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.com