tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post51590775609481379..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Opposition to Obamacare NOT RacistAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-53340204230634396522014-04-07T20:26:44.091-04:002014-04-07T20:26:44.091-04:00It was well timed!It was well timed!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-50137700943678541582014-04-07T20:15:48.780-04:002014-04-07T20:15:48.780-04:00Thanks, Andrew.
I've been waiting for just th...Thanks, Andrew.<br /><br />I've been waiting for just the right article to use that line. This definitely seemed like it was it.Rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190297078043033514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-18778474153508540242014-04-07T20:09:45.036-04:002014-04-07T20:09:45.036-04:00Rustbelt, LOL! Excellent sports call!
BTW, that&...Rustbelt, LOL! Excellent sports call!<br /><br />BTW, that's a great line -- "the most unpopular law in American history since the Fugitive Slave Act!"AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-77199301334741623552014-04-07T20:04:08.536-04:002014-04-07T20:04:08.536-04:00And the most unpopular law in American history sin...And the most unpopular law in American history since the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 gets pwned (again!) and loses another round to Commentarama!<br /><br />("Down goes the A.C.A.! Down goes the A.C.A.!")<br /><br />Andrew, you've got the Monster from the Washington Swamps on the ropes. Keep it up!Rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190297078043033514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-82845276831406007392014-04-07T19:56:25.455-04:002014-04-07T19:56:25.455-04:00Thanks Jon! :DThanks Jon! :DAndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-33272120305144111592014-04-07T19:56:17.457-04:002014-04-07T19:56:17.457-04:00Thanks Anthony! That's true too. Opposition ...Thanks Anthony! That's true too. Opposition to Hillarycare was just as strong, as has been opposition from the left to many things Republicans have wanted. To see racism in this is silly.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-65330487016663588702014-04-07T18:51:44.547-04:002014-04-07T18:51:44.547-04:00Loved this article, Andrew. Well written!Loved this article, Andrew. Well written!Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11739206530879253618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-64800606086279556972014-04-07T18:19:30.476-04:002014-04-07T18:19:30.476-04:00Great article. It should be pointed out that oppo...Great article. It should be pointed out that opposition to Obamacare is no more vehement than opposition to Hillarycare (1994 wasn't any better for Dems than 2010) so it makes no sense to imagine a racial angle.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-61560517235051146382014-04-07T16:45:45.962-04:002014-04-07T16:45:45.962-04:00I know. They have no strategic vision.I know. They have no strategic vision.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-19303819021444216442014-04-07T16:42:21.098-04:002014-04-07T16:42:21.098-04:00It'll never happen though because, unlike Demo...It'll never happen though because, unlike Democrats, Republicans are fearful of proposing unworkable legislation even if it's just to make a point. And normally I'd agree that the risks are very high. But in a case like Obamacare, where there's really nothing to lose, either for the GOP or the country, you may as well shoot for the moon. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-1153071375086929532014-04-07T16:32:25.132-04:002014-04-07T16:32:25.132-04:00tryanmax, I guess we'll have to see how it pla...tryanmax, I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. The little I've seen of it (busy day) just says that the GOP voted to repeal "the deductible caps," which sounds an awful lot like "so that the insurers can charge you whatever they want." This also seems to have come out of the blue, so there's no ground work that has been laid to see how people will respond.<br /><br />The fringe are indeed the real low information voters.<br /><br />I like the idea of a premium cap! That would destroy Obamacare for sure and it would put the Democrats in the position of defending "the need for insurers to profit!"AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-13248298709494429392014-04-07T16:16:31.750-04:002014-04-07T16:16:31.750-04:00What the Republicans really ought to push for are ...What the Republicans really ought to push for are caps on premiums. That's what people understand the best and it would put Dems in a tough spot. I'm all for fighting bad laws with bad laws.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-2892595968838084652014-04-07T16:11:34.425-04:002014-04-07T16:11:34.425-04:00Andrew, I don't think they see this as love to...Andrew, I don't think they see this as love to the corporations is why. This cap was only placed on small businesses. The corporate love was already in Obamacare by not having caps on individual and large group plans. But they don't consider that most people would never know that. <br /><br />Still, as Bev says, most people don't know what a deductible is, so a lot of listeners drop off with that. The cap was $2000/$4000 individual/family, far below the rates Bev describes, so the odds of caps going up b/c of this are slim, so that's fewer people directly affected. On the campaign trail, the only people Republicans have to fear on this are to their right as Dems are already hailing it. <br /><br />I still agree it was a stupid and unnecessary move--hands completely off is the best approach. This strikes me as a Democrat calculation to get a few sitting Republicans primaried by the fringe, i.e. the <i><b>real</b></i> low information voters.tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-13213094880961558662014-04-07T15:49:52.452-04:002014-04-07T15:49:52.452-04:00tryanmax, Agreed about Drudge. Plus, he wouldn...tryanmax, Agreed about Drudge. Plus, he wouldn't ever think about this would play outside the cult. Still, does no one in the GOP have any clue what this looks like? Why the hell do the keep giving love to corporations over people? What is wrong with them?!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-52715969882076043112014-04-07T15:42:44.426-04:002014-04-07T15:42:44.426-04:00Andrew, that may be true, but the likes of Drudge ...Andrew, that may be true, but the likes of Drudge don't have a brain. Normally they'd support this as "good for small business" which the Republicans are claiming. But since they're currently on a "Boehner can do no right" kick...tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-33401381886368556902014-04-07T15:40:10.198-04:002014-04-07T15:40:10.198-04:00Jed, Agreed. This is the ultimate proof that the ...Jed, Agreed. This is the ultimate proof that the government will lie whenever it wants and that the media will repeat the lies uncritically. It's a sad day for democracy.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-16694411310709658382014-04-07T15:39:08.594-04:002014-04-07T15:39:08.594-04:00Bev and tryanmax, Why on earth would they eliminat...Bev and tryanmax, Why on earth would they eliminate the out-of-pocket spending cap? You don't even need a brain to spin that one as a sop to the insurance companies. Why the hell would they do that?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-34817005366717597562014-04-07T15:37:43.975-04:002014-04-07T15:37:43.975-04:00Koshcat,There is much to hate here. This isn'...Koshcat,There is much to hate here. This isn't just some stupid law where the government ends up wasting it's own time. This is a law which will hurt real people.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-47116002358816399852014-04-07T15:36:05.835-04:002014-04-07T15:36:05.835-04:00trynamax, LOL! It definitely has the feel of a ba...trynamax, LOL! It definitely has the feel of a banana Republic election doesn't it? I can even see el Dookey debating whether to make it 7.1 or 7.0 million.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-22393748757026848712014-04-07T15:34:43.583-04:002014-04-07T15:34:43.583-04:00Thanks Bev! Yeah, I know I am treading on shaky g...Thanks Bev! Yeah, I know I am treading on shaky ground by criticizing that which Obamamort has told us dare not be criticized, but Cynthia started it! She made me the way I am! :D<br /><br />On the employer mandate, there is serious talk now among Democrats of cancelling that one all together. Nice, huh?! In any event, it doesn't matter what Tucker says because people feel the effect of this one personally and they aren't happy about it... any of it.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-77600933449728677352014-04-07T15:31:37.331-04:002014-04-07T15:31:37.331-04:00I deny the existence of the ACA. Heck, I deny Obam...I deny the existence of the ACA. Heck, I deny Obama.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-32543001488067749332014-04-07T15:18:56.789-04:002014-04-07T15:18:56.789-04:00A.C.A. deniers are just like climate change denier...A.C.A. deniers are just like climate change deniers,and as Krauthammer points out, an illusion to holocaust deniers, e.g. cut from the same cloth as birthers. This is one of the greatest examples of figures lie and liars figure ever foisted on Americans, and another great example of the sad loss of real objective news analysis. Just as we recently discussed the problems with talk radio and the right, this fully exposes how those who would have us believe they are after the truth really are not.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-49955257717752734662014-04-07T15:18:14.502-04:002014-04-07T15:18:14.502-04:00Yeah, the part they got repealed was the deductibl...Yeah, the part they got repealed was the deductible cap. Since most people don't know what a "deductible" is, I am sure this will make people mad. In fact, it looks to be a "poisoned pill" because without the cap, there is no cap on how much one will have to pay out of pocket. Since most of the deductibles on the lower premium plans are already at 6K or more (in NY) this should be very interesting.BevfromNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-5666752905560827042014-04-07T15:11:55.639-04:002014-04-07T15:11:55.639-04:00In related news, House Republicans successfully go...In related news, House Republicans successfully got repealed a piece of Obamacare but the likes of Drudge are accusing the GOP of expanding the law. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-67657028139186741852014-04-07T15:07:42.422-04:002014-04-07T15:07:42.422-04:00WOW. I thought I disliked ACA. One can look at t...WOW. I thought I disliked ACA. One can look at the Rules for Radicals and see how this administration plans their political attacks. Right now they are using Rule 5 and Rule 8: Ridicule and keep up the attack. Koshcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00552108950848576633noreply@blogger.com