tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post7209391194019242521..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Barack Obama, Republican?AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-55090640250878114932011-01-20T11:51:51.850-05:002011-01-20T11:51:51.850-05:00USS Ben, Isn't that the truth! It's prett...USS Ben, Isn't that the truth! It's pretty amazing that he's backstabbing his democratic friends so easily, but then he is from Chicago. . . so maybe it's not that surprising?<br><br>On the Huffers, I had the same thought -- these people just cut and pasted their anti-Bush tirades and inserted Obama's name!! They are truly unhinged. And I think it's only going to get worse as the year progresses and the Republicans start to make progress. They want Obama to fight to the death to stop everything the Republicans want to do and he's signaled that he has no intention of doing that!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-35362058747157177732011-01-20T04:20:39.765-05:002011-01-20T04:20:39.765-05:00Good post, Andrew!I'm a bit surprised he has g...Good post, Andrew!<br>I'm a bit surprised he has gone this route thus far and, more importantly, the way he's doing it, in a backstabbing his base kind of way.<br>Well, they did want Chicago politics, lol.<br><br>It's funny reading those comments at Huffing and Pissed. <br>It's like they cut n' pasted all their comments about Bush and Cheney and simply added Obama's name.<br>Obama, trhe Cheneycrat? LOL!<br><br>These lefties are completely unhinged. They don't realize that Obama is trying to protect his legacy as best he can under the circumstances without creating more job openings for republican Senators or President in '12.<br><br>Perhaps Obama, and/or his handlers hjave seen the writing on the wall: the left has lost favor in public opinion and is only making it worse.<br>They must take the long view and wait for the tide to shift, hoping the GOP screws up again.<br><br>It will be interesting to see how long Obama keeps this up for, and whether he is serious or merely talking outta his a$$ to provide political cover for '12.USS Ben USN (Ret)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-56616258687083313062011-01-19T12:46:44.934-05:002011-01-19T12:46:44.934-05:00A "Cheney Democrat"! That's pricele...A "Cheney Democrat"! That's priceless! LOL!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-51232364378585135702011-01-19T12:08:36.463-05:002011-01-19T12:08:36.463-05:00Heh heh heh. In that last link you provided, Andr...Heh heh heh. In that last link you provided, Andrew, the commenters are calling Obama a "Cheney Democrat". I love it!Pittsburgh Enigmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06452716444698202766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-40256438141986188562011-01-19T00:46:21.468-05:002011-01-19T00:46:21.468-05:00Bev, Wait till you see what I've come up with ...Bev, Wait till you see what I've come up with for tomorrow morning. If I'm right, their hate is about to become strong enough to power them into orbit!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-39539347447778804152011-01-19T00:45:20.672-05:002011-01-19T00:45:20.672-05:00T_Rav, For some times now, I've seen hints tha...T_Rav, For some times now, I've seen hints that the left was souring on Obama, and it wasn't going to take a lot to push them over the edge. And there's plenty of evidence that they're generally unhinged these days. But I'm with you, the level of anger in these quotes (and the many more at the site) are downright bizarre. These people are crazy!<br><br>In terms of Obama being called a "race traitor," I'm sure that will come if he keeps this up. Every black conservative I can think of is accused of that, it seems to be part of the left's standard template of insults at minorities of whom they disapprove. And if Obama falls into that category, I could easily see them leveling that charge. But I think they'll wait for something larger -- after all, he is still very popular with blacks.<br><br>What's really funny about this whole thing is that their anger is only going to get worse as each agency starts coming up with lists of things to repeal. In other words, this is only beginning.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-90804582065678052362011-01-18T23:24:43.645-05:002011-01-18T23:24:43.645-05:00Andrew, those quotes from HuffPo are simply amazin...Andrew, those quotes from HuffPo are simply amazing. I know you called for something like this to happen some time ago, but I wasn't sure we'd actually see it. I believe the word applying here is "schadenfreude."<br><br>But as for Obama's left-wing critics being racist now, you forget that they can never be racist. Because they're on the left, which means they can never be racist. You want to blame someone? Blame Obama. He went against liberalism, which is all about helping black people, therefore he is now a "race traitor," just like Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, and all the rest who have ungratefully betrayed their benefactors.T_Ravnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-58815192103811481532011-01-18T21:27:21.080-05:002011-01-18T21:27:21.080-05:00Pitts - Just for the record, these bruising commen...Pitts - Just for the record, these bruising comments have started to creep in since the Bush tax debacle of Dec. 2010. There has been some subtle frustration before this, but he is definitely disappointing his far left base. <br><br>Though I personally think that Obama is just pandering for votes. Sadly he is does not have the political skill that Clinton did.BevfromNYChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-20166325709824007192011-01-18T21:20:34.586-05:002011-01-18T21:20:34.586-05:00Pitts, Here's another article at the same plac...Pitts, Here's another article at the same place: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lynn-parramore/what-does-obamas-op-ed-on_b_810413.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><br><br>And check out this quote from the comments.....<br><br><i>Obama has to go . This truly sad. I am not sure we can wait till 2012. The damage being done to the economy and the pandering is unbelievable.</i><br><br><br>If a Republican said such a thing, you could expect to hear calls for the secret service to pay the poster a visit!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-76887514737764428012011-01-18T21:09:08.576-05:002011-01-18T21:09:08.576-05:00OMG, I'm not much of a HuffPo reader, but wow!...OMG, I'm not much of a HuffPo reader, but wow! Those anti-Obama comments are bruising! <br><br>Love this one:<br><br><i>Who are the Democrats going to run against Obama in 2012 ? </i>Pittsburgh Enigmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06452716444698202766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-12437132937212077122011-01-18T20:58:12.148-05:002011-01-18T20:58:12.148-05:00Bev, Absolutely they are racists. We know that op...Bev, Absolutely they are racists. We know that opposition to Obama is based on race, they oppose Obama, hence they are racists. It's sad, but undeniable. LOL!<br><br>Oh wait, we have a paradox. They are racists, but they are also liberals, hence they cannot be racists. Argh! I'm so confused! At least I'm not a robot, I would be blowing circuits left and right!!<br><br><br>Thanks for the link. Here it is in linkable form: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/18/obamas-bogus-explanation-regulation_n_810262.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-54516884285625839542011-01-18T20:53:39.332-05:002011-01-18T20:53:39.332-05:00Stan, I would go one better when it comes to Democ...Stan, I would go one better when it comes to Democrats, forget trust by verify and go with expect the worst and verify. Still, if this is a genuine change -- and it might be, then I will be the first to applaud the change.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-61278745752636643702011-01-18T20:52:38.966-05:002011-01-18T20:52:38.966-05:00DUQ, I think people will pick it up soon when they...DUQ, I think people will pick it up soon when they realize what this can mean. This isn't as sexy as a big program, but this is how real changes happen in the government.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-67480676381010794862011-01-18T20:35:50.216-05:002011-01-18T20:35:50.216-05:00DUQ - Here's the link - Andrew may need to do ...DUQ - Here's the link - Andrew may need to do his magic with the link, otherwise the article is titled - "Obama's Bogus Explanation for Troubles: Too Much Regulation" by Peter S. Goodman<br><br>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/18/obamas-bogus-explanation-regulation_n_810262.html <br><br>BTW - Does this mean they are now the "racists" and "bigots"? I mean, we know it can't possibly be because of Obama's policies, right?BevfromNYChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-55155467700016791862011-01-18T20:16:26.507-05:002011-01-18T20:16:26.507-05:00Not to be racially insensitive, perhaps a tad prov...Not to be racially insensitive, perhaps a tad provincial, It sounds like Joel Chandler Harris, Uncle Remus tales, “Br’er Rabbit and the briar patch” “Please don’t throw me in the briar patch!” We must be very careful here with Barry, he’s done tremendous damage already, Healthcare, Financial Reform. As we begin to disassemble his terrible legislation, and Barry helps, maybe then he can be forgiven. I’m convinced it’s a “bait & switch,” or a perversion of the Dick Morris’s trianglization strategy for Clinton. As the great Reagan told us “trust, but verify,” we’ll see.StanHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-18209521989471708742011-01-18T19:52:49.026-05:002011-01-18T19:52:49.026-05:00Andrew, The regulation story is starting to break ...Andrew, The regulation story is starting to break out at several places now. Nice work being ahead of the curve! I don't know if Obama is being sincere or not, but stranger things have happened and if he does have a genuine change, then I'll be happy.<br><br>Bev, Can you give us a link to the Huffpo article?DUQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-42510964566922877742011-01-18T18:33:02.005-05:002011-01-18T18:33:02.005-05:00P.S. That last comments sounds a lot like what th...P.S. That last comments sounds a lot like what they said about Bush! I wonder if they have a macro?<br><br>"Time to criticize whoever the current president is. . . let's see, control plus shift 7 is for 'about time' and control plus shift 8 is for 'you dirty fascist.'"AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-83989700191586105932011-01-18T18:31:11.236-05:002011-01-18T18:31:11.236-05:00Bev, I should have guessed they would be on top of...Bev, I should have guessed they would be on top of this at Huffpo! I think they are going to get really angry with him before this is over, if his article is any indication.<br><br>When he said that the economy is not a zero-sum game, that flies directly in the face of their entire ideology and puts the lie to the idea that you have to punish the rich to help everyone else.<br><br>Plus, they've ALWAYS painted the idea of deregulation as a sop to big business, so his talk about eliminating regulations (no matter how stupid) will go down very poorly with them, as they will see Obama siding with the rich.<br><br>I love the "this is not what I voted for" comment! We should put that on t-shirts, we could make a fortune! :-)<br><br>(P.S. Thanks for braving the Huffers for us!)AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-45418277686355859252011-01-18T18:18:50.685-05:002011-01-18T18:18:50.685-05:00FYI - As you have predicted, the Libs are a bit up...FYI - As you have predicted, the Libs are a bit upset with The One about the WSJ article - Just a few of the comments on HuffPo:<br><i>"Oh, wow. This is not what I voted for."</i><br><br><i>"Yes...too much regulation is the problem, Obama. Just like tax cuts for the rich will create jobs. Just like trickle down bailouts will create jobs. All of that is reality...in CANDYLAND!"</i><br><br><i>"He can't be bothered with too big to fail, too big to nail and too big to jail because he's too busy extending the Patriot Act, the drug war, gutting FOIA, expanding the wars into new sovereign nations, continuing reindition and t0rture, involuntary preventive detention and k!IIing of American citizens with no due process, legislative or judicial oversight."</i><br><br>Well...you get the idea.BevfromNYChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14953050916932306270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-34794986742982167712011-01-18T18:09:14.084-05:002011-01-18T18:09:14.084-05:00Jed, Now that is a good question.In truth, I can t...Jed, Now that is a good question.<br><br>In truth, I can think of three Presidents who stuck with unpopular policies no matter what happens even when it appeared they would lose because of those policies: Johnson, Reagan and Bush II -- and Johnson gave up rather than running again.<br><br>Don't forget that in 1982/1983, Reagan suffered a big loss in the midterms and his popularity fell to 40% because of the recession. But he kept on insisting that his policies would work, and they did, just in time to bail him out prior to the 1984 election.<br><br>Ford did the pardon, but I honestly don't know what else he stood for, or we might be able to add him to the list.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-3731424070398292982011-01-18T17:41:15.603-05:002011-01-18T17:41:15.603-05:00Andrew - Of course circumstances will always be so...Andrew - Of course circumstances will always be somewhat complex, but I actually was thinking of an unpopular president coming up for re-election who "went down with the ship" rather than change in order to win an extra term. Maybe, a Marty Van Buren. Another might be Gerald Ford who commited political suicide by pardoning Richard Nixon. That was a specific act, but I have no doubt it was done because he thought it was the right thing to do and not a political payoff.Tennessee Jedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-54842827490061024792011-01-18T17:11:46.261-05:002011-01-18T17:11:46.261-05:00Bev, Here it is:Obama Article.Wow! It sounds at l...Bev, Here it is:<br><br><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703396604576088272112103698.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop" rel="nofollow">Obama Article</a>.<br><br>Wow! It sounds at least, like everything is on the table here. He specifically mentions consumer regulations, employment regulations, safety, the EPA... and he says this:<br><br><i>"Our economy is not a zero-sum game. Regulations do have costs; often, as a country, we have to make tough decisions about whether those costs are necessary."</i><br><br>Those aren't words I ever thought a Democrat would say!<br><br><br>(FYI, I'm hearing they are trying to sell this to the Democrats as necessary to compete with China. Interesting approach. That might work with the unions.)AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-83132659327637977072011-01-18T17:07:05.340-05:002011-01-18T17:07:05.340-05:00Crispy, I'm hoping they are finally getting it...Crispy, I'm hoping they are finally getting it. I've been very impressed with Issa, Ryan and Boehner, and they seem to be making all the right moves. So hopefully, they can exploit Obama's change of heart here -- whether it's real or not?AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-75959902414251632322011-01-18T17:04:39.490-05:002011-01-18T17:04:39.490-05:00Bev, The link didn't work. Maybe it's a p...Bev, The link didn't work. Maybe it's a pay site?<br><br>What did it say?AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-87536288148228535372011-01-18T17:04:17.803-05:002011-01-18T17:04:17.803-05:00That's really funny, Bev!!Andrew, I'm glad...That's really funny, Bev!!<br><br>Andrew, I'm glad to see Issa isn't falling for this yet either. Maybe these new Republicans finally are getting it that they can't just fall for anything the Democrats say.CrispyRicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07302075204880024936noreply@blogger.com