tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post7368702160978543395..comments2024-01-05T06:18:18.086-05:00Comments on CommentaramaPolitics: Fox News: A Healthy Dose of SkepticismAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-42101729683164810522010-12-16T22:50:53.567-05:002010-12-16T22:50:53.567-05:00Stan, I think it's finished too, at least in i...Stan, I think it's finished too, at least in it's present form. The only two things that kept journalism viable were (1) the ability to provide news and (2) the public's trust in their analysis. The first of those is gone because of the internet. The second they've squandered, and they won't get it back. So what's left to offer?AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-65730718333505342972010-12-16T19:00:49.439-05:002010-12-16T19:00:49.439-05:00Journalism is dead. It’s been in a death spiral fo...Journalism is dead. It’s been in a death spiral for many years. The moment journalist got away from informing the public, to forming opinion, the trade is a goner. I remember being a kid, preparing for college, hearing become a journalist and change the world…huh! Dig deep and you can find the truth, watch PMSNBC, and be an uninformed mush-head.StanHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07395708786509590321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-20875783432927318492010-12-16T16:53:18.431-05:002010-12-16T16:53:18.431-05:00Pitts, I do the same thing. It's gotten to the...Pitts, I do the same thing. It's gotten to the point that I can't read a single story without looking for all the holes, the caveats, and the half-truths.<br><br>And like you, it really ticks me off that they are calling "tax cuts" costs. The money does not belong to the government, it belongs to the taxpayer. The fact that the government is taking less does not mean that this is a "cost" to the government or that this is a "giveaway" to the taxpayer. Only a communist could believe that terminology, and I don't use that term lightly.<br><br>And excellent point on the Laffer Curve, which has proved beyond a doubt (and experience verified it) that raising taxes can reduce revenue by suppressing economic activity. And the left would admit this if their ideology weren't based on pure spite.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-67207116659770829082010-12-16T16:38:17.754-05:002010-12-16T16:38:17.754-05:00I have a healthy dose of skepticism for the mainst...I have a healthy dose of skepticism for the mainstream media itself, as do a lot of Americans, I think. Every time I read any news article or listen to any news story put out by the MSM, I question whether it's biased, spun, omissive or even blatantly false. Just now I was reading an article from <i>CNN Money</i> about the tax bill in congress, and they are talking about the <i>cost</i> of tax rate extensions. Every MSM outlet is calling this a "cost", but it's not a cost at all. Just because the government <i>would</i> have received extra money doesn't mean it's a cost to them by not receiving it. And if you consider the Laffer curve, a tax rate increase may actually decrease revenue to the government. But the MSM can't talk about Laffer because he's just an evil right winger spewing evil right wing propaganda. *sigh*Pittsburgh Enigmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06452716444698202766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-42362056601112006872010-12-16T14:50:37.175-05:002010-12-16T14:50:37.175-05:00Ed, So true.Ed, So true.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-1036043908201164932010-12-16T14:00:41.942-05:002010-12-16T14:00:41.942-05:00Lawhawk, In this day an age, you can't believe...Lawhawk, In this day an age, you can't believe anything you see either -- not with photoshop!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-19026718215031676892010-12-16T13:59:55.462-05:002010-12-16T13:59:55.462-05:00ACG, That's true, they are advocates, they wri...ACG, That's true, they are advocates, they write what they want without any regard to what is true or false.<br><br>Nice word!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-75250918669671901852010-12-16T13:52:29.892-05:002010-12-16T13:52:29.892-05:00My parents taught me not to believe anything I hea...My parents taught me not to believe anything I hear and only half of what I see. Somehow that advice seems more apt on a daily basis when viewing anything from the MSM.LawHawkRFDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17800255923675295515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-8794573825825442092010-12-16T13:50:03.583-05:002010-12-16T13:50:03.583-05:00Journalists write what they are supposed to write ...Journalists write what they are supposed to write without regard to the truth and if you don't believe me you are a hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobeArmChairGeneralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08198920658123610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-86877362721706454762010-12-16T13:37:01.427-05:002010-12-16T13:37:01.427-05:00By the way, I just heard that Blake Edwards has di...By the way, I just heard that Blake Edwards has died. RIP.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-85412768985405847822010-12-16T13:36:37.493-05:002010-12-16T13:36:37.493-05:00Patti, Isn't that the truth! They just keep g...Patti, Isn't that the truth! They just keep giving us more and more evidence of their real motives and that's why the public is responding by losing their trust... yet, we're the stupid ones? No way!AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-20356352091067873252010-12-16T13:24:21.560-05:002010-12-16T13:24:21.560-05:00they just keep giving us ammo for the fight. love...they just keep giving us ammo for the fight. love it. and they think we're the ones folks should be skeptical of. bunch of leftie drones.pattihttp://www.notawonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-15215611347662175342010-12-16T13:06:52.711-05:002010-12-16T13:06:52.711-05:00Ed, There is certainly something to that. And it&...Ed, There is certainly something to that. And it's not just journalism or professors. They've done the same with the legal profession, and they tried to do the same with the Catholic Church in the 1960/1970s. They've done the same with governing.<br><br>The problem isn't the professions they enter, it's the way they behave once they get there. They truly think they are better than the rest of us and their mission is to impose their beliefs us no matter how far beyond the scope of their powers that may be.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-40512807962915903572010-12-16T13:02:37.474-05:002010-12-16T13:02:37.474-05:00You said the other day that leftists soil the labe...You said the other day that leftists soil the labels they claim, I see it the same with professions. They've taken a really noble profession, so noble that the Founders mention it in the Constitution, and they've turned it into the least trusted institution in the country. They've done the same thing with being a college professor. It's because they don't do their jobs despite their politics, they redefine their jobs to suit their politics. Journalism, 1,000,000 B.C. - 2010 R.I.P.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-9288330190434660702010-12-16T11:43:58.342-05:002010-12-16T11:43:58.342-05:00Crispy, P.S. -- The whole idea of net neutrality, ...Crispy, P.S. -- The whole idea of net neutrality, i.e. trying to control the flow of information to keep us from informing ourselves, and the constant talk of bailing out their profession because consumers have turned on them, only hurts their credibility.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-61645970976682299212010-12-16T11:41:31.144-05:002010-12-16T11:41:31.144-05:00T_Rav, Thanks! I thought the whole Climategate is...T_Rav, Thanks! I thought the whole Climategate issue was very important to wrap my head around and I'm glad it turned into a readable post! I still plan to debunk global warming, but haven't had the chance.<br><br>In terms of journalists, I agree entirely. They no longer see themselves as reporters of events, they see themselves as opinion-makers. And you sum this up perfectly when you said: they think "it's up to people like them to enlighten and reform society". They really do believe that, and they don't think anything of lying or distorting to the ignorant masses to make us believe what's good for us.<br><br>But we're smarter than that, and that's why they are having such problems with credibility.<br><br>What's truly telling to me, especially in light of what's in this article, is that they are deluding themselves. If they really were "enlightened" then they (1) would happily challenge all theories and arguments put before them to ascertain the absolute truth -- in other words, the "enlightened" people I've met all love truth and knowledge and hate propaganda, and (2) they would never be afraid to have someone challenge their beliefs. Yet journalists show neither of these traits, which tells me they are "intellectual posers" -- they are faking that they know anything more than anyone else, they just arrogantly think of themselves as superior.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-66679887882915741112010-12-16T11:28:28.150-05:002010-12-16T11:28:28.150-05:00DUQ, Isn't that the truth! They sit an wonder...DUQ, Isn't that the truth! They sit an wonder why people don't trust them.... "we're not biased, we're journalists!" And then they whine bizarrely about something like this: "how dare you ask questions!"<br><br>It's almost shocking.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-57458314727791951172010-12-16T11:27:00.580-05:002010-12-16T11:27:00.580-05:00Tom, I've been honestly shocked for the past d...Tom, I've been honestly shocked for the past decade how little work journalists put into their work. They don't contact sources, they don't research their subjects, they often don't even have a basic understanding of the subject matter. It's literally like they sit in an office somewhere and say, "I think I'll write about XX today" and then they just make it up.<br><br>They really are making their profession worthless.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-13862694649476241772010-12-16T11:19:51.549-05:002010-12-16T11:19:51.549-05:00Crispy, What I find so funny about those polls, is...Crispy, What I find so funny about those polls, is that the left (and journalists in particular) take it on faith that whites can't be fair to non-whites, men can't be fair to women, "Anglos" can't be fair to Hispanics, the able can't be fair to the disabled, etc. etc. when it comes to running a business, teaching, representing in Congress, etc.<br><br>Yet somehow, they -- a profession that self-reports at 90% liberal -- is perfectly capable of representing conservatives? And they resist any suggestion that they are biased or that they let their bias interfere with their jobs? Give me a break.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-32931684760257591602010-12-16T11:17:00.353-05:002010-12-16T11:17:00.353-05:00Thing is, I don't believe most of our so-calle...Thing is, I don't believe most of our so-called journalists today believe in simply reporting the news. They share the same mindset as everyone else on the Left, including the belief that it's up to people like them to enlighten and reform society. If that's the case, it's hardly possible for them to impartially gather the facts of a story. They have to nudge the reader or viewer towards their own point of view.<br><br>By the way, you notice how the AP and other organizations seem to announce every December (and always in the midst of a nasty cold snap, no less) that this year was one of the hottest on record? That would be very disturbing, if it wasn't all hogwash (kudos to your post a few months ago debunking the temperature data).T_Ravnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-63936513291145657862010-12-16T11:11:04.079-05:002010-12-16T11:11:04.079-05:00Thank Jed. I think that's entirely true. So ...Thank Jed. I think that's entirely true. So many journalists are now agenda driven that they have crossed over well beyond in advocates into the realm of "true believers," people who accept everything their side says without hesitation or thought and who see all others as enemies.AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-29735486365389519152010-12-16T10:32:15.298-05:002010-12-16T10:32:15.298-05:00Love the hypocritical outrage. And they wonder wh...Love the hypocritical outrage. And they wonder why no one trusts the MSM!DUQhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08746724287720239837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-48114069519535516492010-12-16T10:29:08.887-05:002010-12-16T10:29:08.887-05:00journalist: person who researches, photographs, or...journalist: person who researches, photographs, or writes news, current events, or feature stories.<br><br>Remove researches and features from the above definition for a more accurate definition of today's journalist.<br><br>At least here I know we are all opining.Tehachapi Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-12199987578960835712010-12-16T09:55:17.915-05:002010-12-16T09:55:17.915-05:00Yup! And when you see the statistics on how many ...Yup! And when you see the statistics on how many journalists are liberals and donate to liberal causes, it makes it all the worse. <br><br>This "net neutrality" vote isn't going to help. The internet and its free / open-to-anyone nature are doing what journalists used to do.CrispyRicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07302075204880024936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6251675227852122352.post-41938648503356068142010-12-16T09:34:41.108-05:002010-12-16T09:34:41.108-05:00Nice post, Andrew. It is sad, indeed. Even sadder,...Nice post, Andrew. It is sad, indeed. Even sadder, is that for so many journalists, there cynicism is directed exclusively towards anyone who disagrees with the "agenda."Tennessee Jedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.com