Monday, October 22, 2012

Final Debate Thread


Home stretch people, home stretch. Tonight is the last debate. . . thankfully. Tonight is about foreign policy, which probably means ratings of between 14-18 people. In that regard, we now have a CIA memo which blows a hole in the Obama Administration plan to blame the intelligence community. Obama seems to have decided that less than 4 deaths per embassy is optimal. And Joe Biden is looking for veterans of our recent wars with Iraq and Iran. . . idiot.

It looks like Obama wasn't able to gain any momentum from the last debate so tonight could be critical. Maybe he should talk about the 47% of Pakistanis Romney hates. . . or the 57 states he's visited since he became a professional golfer president.

422 comments:

  1. Cowboys won yesterday - maybe it's a portent that the Moderator will be fair... yeah, right, never mind.

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  2. rlaWTX, I have never known Bob Schieffer not to be fair.

    Oh... wait, take out the "not."

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  3. It will be another Mainstream Media Moderator exercise in narcissism and bias.

    I doubt that it will change the momentum of the Election. Obama will lie as usual, while trying to convince us that his presidency has not been a colossal failure (and Bob Schieffer will affirm that he's personally done very well pulling down $800K per year reporting on Obame the past year - so the HIS economy is strong).

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  4. Maybe they should bring in some of those replacement referees to keep it fair! They can blow a whistle and throw a flag down whenever Bob helps out Barack when he gets in the weeds or when Bob interrupts and changes the subject right when Mitt is going to explain how Barack is lying.

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  5. LL, I think that unless Romney drops his pants, this debate won't change anything. And If the last debate didn't help Obama in the polls, then only a true blow-out win will help tonight. BUT, few people care about foreign policy, and it rarely sways elections. Also, most people will be watching Monday Night Football. So unless Romney does something horrible they can run for the next week on the news, tonight will be irrelevant.

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  6. Bev, They would be better than anyone from the MSM, that's for sure.

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  7. I like the penalty idea, although I was thinking that if Obama started talking about killing Osama, Romney should throw the flag for excessive celebration after the play.

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  8. I like Schieffer, but he's become increasingly unreliable and suspect in his old age. Here's hoping he doesn't let his bias show too much.

    Unfortunately, another night class calls for me, so I will again be joining the fanfare (ha!) somewhat late. Talk quietly amongst yourselves until I show up.

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  9. [1] NO pants dropping!! BClinton might decide to jump onstage and join in!

    [2] Penalty flags sound like a GREAT idea!

    [3] T-Rav, enjoy class (lol); but when have we ever "talked quietly"??

    [4] my client didn't call to set tonight's appointment, so I am out of excuses. Dang it.

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  10. "And Joe Biden is looking for veterans of our recent wars with Iraq and Iran. . . idiot."

    Andrew

    After taking out Sadaam the remainder of the war probably involved our soldiers fighting as many secret Iranian insurgents as Al Queada or former Bathists so maybe the clock stopped in Ol' Crazy Joe's favor on this one.

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  11. T-Rav, I don't dislike Schieffer. As far as MSM go, he's probably a decent choice just like Jim Lehrer.

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  12. rlaWTX, Then we expect you here! Front row...

    What do you mean no dropping pants? That would be my prime strategy!

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  13. Koshcat, I hope he beats that drum mericlessly tonight. Every time he says it, it sounds a little more phony.

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  14. Indi, I hadn't thought of that. I thought perhaps old Joe was talking about something they were planning for next week.

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  15. I put my money on Bob Schieffer not knowing what the heck is even going on.

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  16. Mr. Tryanmax, I know Joe Biden, sir. And I am no Joe Biden.

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  17. rla, are you saying you'll be here for the whole thing and I won't? What universe is this???

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  18. T-Rav, I'm hoping this a universe where they say only two things tonight so my recap can be very, very short.

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  19. first off, I don't like Bob Schieffer. Not then, not now. He is a lib t.v. talking head. Always has been and always will be.

    Debate most likely means absolutely nothing, but it will be interesting to see if Team Chicago (B.O. & Schieffer) will try and do something with a "peace is at hand" bullshit meme.

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  20. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Harry Reid raise his hand and stand up during the Iran part of Joe Biden's question? Man!! (Whistles through teeth.)

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  21. Obama tonight: I think there is no escaping the whole botched security situation with Libya, I mean even if he did say (loosely) that it was terrorism in the next day in the rose garden, how many weeks of trying to tie it to a video and saying it is spontaneous can be ignored? He got caught campaigning with his pants down, instead of managing.

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  22. Yeah, good luck with that.

    Well, I'm out. See y'all in a few hours. Stand by for sockpuppeting.

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  23. T-Rav, you must have ripped another hole in that alternate universe fabric!!!! That's what happens when you run with scissors!!!

    Jon - did you not see the NO Pant Dropping Rule!! :)

    Andrew, yep - I'll be here with bells on... or at least my laptop on.

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  24. Soory, rlaWTX. Nervously looking around for Bill . . .

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  25. i'm seriously thinking about skipping it and just having husband yell: BIN LADEN! every 10 minutes or so. of course i'll have a DRANK!

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  26. Hey Andrew,

    Any thing come from the Democrat office being shot up? Do they have the shooter? Is there any information about how the window was shot out? Is it another inside job, or did they hid it better than last time?

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  27. How about the one who was giving away bottles of vodka for votes?

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  28. Patti - that'd be less stressful and blood pressure-raising! :)

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  29. Patti, I think you just nailed what is going to happen tonight. LOL!

    Jon, Nice avatar!

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  30. Joel, Not that I heard of. It never really was big news here and it kind of faded away. I think everyone understands that whoever did it is an idiot.

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  31. Ok, one more hour...I have my bowl of popcorn.

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  32. Forget the popcorn, What are the drinking rules tonight?

    Is it every time Osama Bin Laden is mentioned?

    Or is it going to be about lady parts?

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  33. Uh, Jon, who is giving away vodka for votes again?? Mmmm, not that my vote can bought that easily, but...umm, I'm just asking for a friend...yeah, a friend.

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  34. Good one!
    Hear "Bin Laden," drink a shot.

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  35. Hi Bev,

    It was Democratic state Rep. Hudson Hallum in Arkansas. Just saw it.

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  36. Why is there such a big push for early voting? Is this something new?

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  37. Hello all! Checking in. Is everybody ready?

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  38. What's his face on NBC is pointing out that tonight is the last night the candidates will see eachother until the election. It's like bad luck or something. Like seeing the bride before the wedding. Okay, I added some of that.

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  39. If you look closely, you can see Bob's feeding tube.

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  40. tryanamx, I am well prepared. I have a drink. I'm well fed. And I have a suicide pill.

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  41. What kind of intro was that? "Does anyone remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? Ah... those were the days."

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  42. No suicide pills, Andrew...that would be cheating.;)

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  43. If Bob is gonna ramble like this all night, it's gonna be a long one.

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  44. OMG - I hate the look on TOTUS' face!!

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  45. I bet Pres. Obama says something about how things have to get worse before they can get better...

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  46. Romney's turned his personality on, which is a good sign.

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  47. I've heard one can die from mere exposure to extreme stupidity.

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  48. tryanmax, I think you just won the thread.

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  49. "We can't kill our way out of this mess." BRILLIANT!! That wins the night!

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  50. if tryanmax wins, can we all drink and turn off the TV?

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  51. He hasn't kept our EMBASSIES safe, but I guess WE are safe...

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  52. rlaWTX, only if you have Zingers®.

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  53. romney just deflated all other "bin laden" references by using it first!

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  54. It's like Romney has been reading Commentarama!

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  55. Uh, talk about "all over the map", Mr. Obama...

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  56. It's an Obama pattern: rather than speak to his own strategy, he simply crafts a straw one for Romney and attacks it.

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  57. "Let's give the president a chance" What was that?

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  58. I already want to be done listening to TOTUS

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  59. But I thought Al Qaeda was defeated...Obama killed bin Laden!!

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  60. Oh BS, BO. Like Russia doesn't have a hand in anything . .

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  61. Here's the difference: Romney is a candidate reacting to the random decisions of the sitting president. Obama is the sitting president making random decisions.

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  62. Obama failed and is trying to put it on Romney.

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  63. attacking me is not an agenda!!!

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  64. Nice answer by Romney, "attacking me is not an agenda."

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  65. OMG! romney is having this thread fed to him by ear mic!

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  66. Why is Obama challenging Romney as if Romney has effected ANY policy? How can one be wrong when one has not done ANYTHING yet...

    Flexibility!!! Good job.

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  67. not letting TOTUS running things!!!!

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  68. Oooo in the weeds, go for it BO. Dwell there

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  69. Hmm. Musta just learned that. Like, two seconds ago.

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  70. Obama ACTUALLY SAID HE NEEDS TO BE CLEAR?????? WTF??? He is the most unclear President we have EVERY had!!!!!

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  71. did he really just invoke Israel????

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  72. Obama is making clearly political attacks and distorting Romney's words, that comes across.

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  73. I wonder if Romney practices straight-face??? He's doing pretty well...

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  74. So Obama agrees with Romney's plan?

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  75. Schieffer is not doing Obama any favors tonight.

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  76. Does Obama know that Turkey has already engaged with Syria??

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  77. Bev, that was in that security briefing he missed...

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  78. So they both agree on Syria... except Obama is claiming they are opposed.

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  79. Romney is giving my brain a happy.

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  80. Obama is blinking his eyes. Almost twice as much as Romney.

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  81. Wow, Romney knows ALL of the countries in the Middle East!! I wonder if Obama can name them all.

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  82. "leadership role" - that's not one TOTUS is familiar with

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  83. With 1/5th of the debate in, I am ready to declare this a draw.

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  84. Okay, so far, Romney knows his stuff...Obama, not so much.

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  85. If we declare it already, THEN can we turn off the TV?

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  86. I wonder what Assad is thinking right now?

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  87. "I don’t want to have our military involved in Syria."

    That will be a winner with the public.

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  88. I agree with you Andrew - draw. There is not a lot of difference on Syria.

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  89. "May I ask you..." You're the Moderator!!! Of course you can ask!!!

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  90. rlaWTX: exactly what i thought when he said it.

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  91. his whole administration is unraveling.

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  92. Wow, Schieffer is staying out of the debate.

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  93. now they have to make sure that they behave Western-ishly... Like Egypt cares what TOTUS thinks they HAVE to do!!!

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  94. I can't actually disagree with Obama on that... except he has no idea how to build jobs.

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  95. this is a short answer???????????????

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  96. Hey, how about rebuilding our own?

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  97. OMG - let's turn this into a domestic policy question!

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  98. Entrepreneurship conferences? Really?

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  99. Man, Romney is reading the Andrew Price Doctrine on foreign policy. :)

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  100. Nice... go after Obama on the economy!

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  101. That's it, back to USA keep going Mitt

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  102. Now Romney's doing domestic policy - I guess, it's good to answer TOTUS's statements...

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  103. Romney is scoring some great quotes tonight.

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  104. ooohhh. Good topic. Smack him, Mitt

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  105. I think it's just illustrative that foreign and domestic policy are impossible to completely separate.

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  106. Domestic = score.

    This is a great recitation of the Obama record!

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  107. Wow, Romney really must have someone feeding him our thread!

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  108. Romney's segue into domestic was smoother than TOTUS'..

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  109. Sheiffer is actually moderating well. He seems to have control, but is not getting involved in the debate.

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  110. people of this thread: we ARE the Illuminati!

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  111. Romney is doing a hell of a job slamming Obama without sounding negative or nasty. He almost sounds like he pities him.

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  112. oooooh - that was a dirty look when Romney mentioned Iran's demonstrations...

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  113. I do have to give Bob credit. And he isn't wearing the worst tie.

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  114. Oh, snap! Green Revolution in Iran is not an energy policy.

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  115. Not stronger Obama, you ****!

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  116. shhhhh, Patti, that's a secret!

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  117. This is not a platform that people are buying.

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  118. rlaWTX: dang, i forgot. must be the alkeeholz

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  119. Is he answering the question about US's role?? Or is it just me?

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  120. Does anyone else find 0bama's voice extremely hard to focus on?

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  121. BUSH!!! Drink...extra gulp for Cheney!

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  122. tryanmax - TOTUS is just too cool for you!

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  123. tmax: i find myself drifting when he's speaking, but that could just be self-preservation.

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  124. That's gonna play well in the oil, coal, and nat. gas states.

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  125. rlaWTX, yeah, I heard that before about Coltrane. Pthzzz!

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  126. Tryanmax - I have been unable to focus on his voice for 5 years now...

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  127. Obama's looking for an in . . . kind of lost

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  128. I am now leaning toward Romney winning.

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  129. Uh, how did we get off topic to domestic policy? Uh, Bob, can we get back on track here?

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  130. What wa his comment to Joe the Plumber? Yeah right BO

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  131. No, we need the kind of small business promotion that taxes anyone making $250,001 out of business.

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  132. reformed education? when did the feds reform - cutting the DC voucher program?

    Class size isn't as big of a deal educationally as teachers WANT!

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  133. Obama is literally just reading from one of his campaign commercials and it feels fake on tv and it feels fake now. Too many caveats.

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  134. Thanks Bob - Finally he said it - Let's get back to foreign policy?

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  135. #1 in English. Fine. But what about Spanish, eh Mitt?

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  136. i consult kiddos applying to college and you cannot believe their horrible writing skilz.

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  137. Does anyone get the feeling that Obama is just lying to help himself?

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  138. We'd go for a bigger Navy.

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  139. tryanmax, They were Number Uno in Spanish.

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  140. Andrew - Yes, I think that Obama is lying to help himself.

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  141. Andrew, whatever 0bama is doing, he's totally pulling his numbers out of his @$$.

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  142. Wait, Obama's spent MORE on military spending? I thought he was CUTTING military spending. Isn't that what he's been doing??

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  143. Obama's said all of this before and it hasn't worked. This is a big mistake.

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  144. That's because you stink at math, BO

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  145. Programing note: i'm listening to the tv in the other room, as i play along here with y'all and all of a sudden: BOOM! channel change. I yelled to husband: I'm listening in here. Husband: can you tell my head just exploded?!

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  146. "not driven by politics" bahhahaha

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  147. Maybe he took the same New Math that my mom did. She blames that for her poor math skilz.

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  148. Obama wants the military to have crossbows and horses.

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  149. Uh, our budget IS SO driven by Congress!! OF course there hasn't HAD a budget for all the years Obama has been President...

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  150. sequestration already HAS happened...

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  151. WTH?! Horses and Bayonet? I smell an internets meme!

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  152. I heard a lot of shuffling in the audience when Obama used his horses and bayonets line. I'm thinking it didn't go over well.

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  153. Patti, Don't let your head explode!! Wear your helmet! :)

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  154. web site, did he read the Cliff notes?

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