As I’ve mentioned before, there are a gaggle of liberal sportswriters who want to feel like they’ve caused some great civil rights movement. But with black coaches and quarterbacks aplenty and gays in the temple, what’s left? Well, the horribly racist “Redskin” name, that's what! Queue a flood of self-righteous articles about the indignity that anyone in America would dare use such a slur. Well, now they have a problem and that has exposed all their grand proclamations of principle as nothing more than hypocrisy. Typical.
The primary loser beating this tom-tom has been West Virginia lawyer trash Mike Florio, who leveraged insider information from agents into a rumor site that NBC bought to gain an online presence. Florio is paranoid and beyond conspiratorial, almost always wrong, and he's a real ass. He’s Perez Hilton in hillbilly garb. He’s also a massive liberal and he applies all the usual liberal arguments. Here are his key arguments, i.e. the principles he claims must be applied:
Simple. . . and false. Observe.
Last week, one of the whiners in the anti-Redskin movement made the comment that the Kansas City Chiefs better change their name too, because she considered that just as offensive.
BAM! In races Florio to slam the Chiefs, right? Actually, no. See, all those principles Florio spews against the Redskins apparently aren’t principles after all. Indeed, they don’t apply with the Chiefs because “[t]here are fundamental differences between the Chiefs and the Redskins, especially that dictionaries define ‘chief’ as a term of respect and ‘redskin’ as a slur.” In other words, society doesn’t see chief as an insult, so it doesn’t matter to Florio that this whiner is upset by that word. Do you see the problem? His entire anti-Redskin argument is premised on the idea that if one person is offended, then that is enough. What society wants is irrelevant. But when it comes to the Chiefs, Florio suddenly claims the word needs to be objectively seen as offensive by society before this can be considered an issue. If that’s true, then doesn’t the fact that the public supports the Redskin name and doesn’t see it as offensive by a 9-1 margin pretty much neuter Florio’s argument against that name? Of course it does, but he’s a liberal and he doesn’t care about consistency.
What he’s done is take his own prejudices and turn them into objective reality. He sees the word “Redskin” as offensive and thus, he wants it banned and he comes up with broad ranging "principles" to support his argument and dismiss the desires of the public. On the other hand, he does not see the word “Chiefs” as offensive and thus he rejects the idea that it should be banned, even as that contradicts every one of the broad principles he uses to support his attack on the Redskins. Basically, his principles apply only when he agrees with the outcome they would cause. So much for principles.
So much for the public too. Like most liberals, he only cares what the public thinks when the public agrees with him. Notice also that he’s not speaking for an aggrieved people as he proudly claims, he’s using them to get his own prejudices made a matter of public policy. In other words, they are worth protecting only so long as their desires are consistent with his.
Interestingly, since Amanda Blackhorse said this last week about the Chiefs, Florio has run ZERO articles about the Chiefs and their name. Yet, at the same time, he continues to run attacks on the Redskins using the same false logic he won’t apply to the Chiefs.
Finally, I guess it’s worth pointing out too that once again, when you are dealing with the permanently aggrieved, they cannot be placated. No concession will ever be enough. Give them Redskins, they will demand Chiefs. Give them Chiefs, they'll demand something else. Any concession is just encouragement for them to try the next leg of their journey.
The primary loser beating this tom-tom has been West Virginia lawyer trash Mike Florio, who leveraged insider information from agents into a rumor site that NBC bought to gain an online presence. Florio is paranoid and beyond conspiratorial, almost always wrong, and he's a real ass. He’s Perez Hilton in hillbilly garb. He’s also a massive liberal and he applies all the usual liberal arguments. Here are his key arguments, i.e. the principles he claims must be applied:
● If anyone is offended by a word, then the rest of us have an obligation to conform our behavior to the desires of those people and we must stop using the "offensive" word. Remember this "principle" because it will be key.Got it? If a single angel cries, then all us devils must change because this is a matter of principle and the principle is determined by the idiosyncratic beliefs of the group doing the whining. It does not matter that no one else sees this as a slur or that the vast majority of the public is on the other side. All that matters is that someone feels aggrieved.
● You can’t play the numbers game in an instance like this, because this is about right and wrong. All it takes is one person being offended to require a change. This is how he gets around the problem that the public supports the Redskin name by a 9-1 margin, and he's actually attacked people who claim we should do what the “vast majority” of the public wants. He claimed that (1) 80%+ cannot be considered “a vast majority” (yeah, he said that) and (2) this isn’t about polls, this is about right and wrong, so arguing majority rules is immoral.
● The fact that most people don’t consider this offensive isn’t relevant, because some people do and that is enough to require action. This is how he avoids the problem that a number of teams still use the name, including at least one team on an American Indian reservation. Notice that each of these first three points is the same point restated differently.
● Next, he plays the race card by dismissing the opinions of all those who aren’t American Indian because their opinions are per se inferior to American Indians on this issue. Basically, in his world, each race gets special treatment and a different set of rules. Further, he makes himself the judge of what these people may believe. Indeed, when American Indians agree with the whites, Florio either (1) dismisses them as not genuine Indians or (2) he dismisses them as out of touch or duped. He’s also gone back and smeared the various American Indians who were involved in choosing the Redskin name or logo by questioning (without evidence) their claim to being American Indians. Essentially, Florio takes the position that there is only one opinion Indians may have, and Florio has appointed himself as the man who will give it to them.
● To bolster his case, he highlights every single person who agrees with him as a way to avoid the damning statistical polls, and he never mentions anyone who disagrees with him except for Redskin employees, who he claims are saying what they have been told to say. He also points to his own articles as proof that the public is buzzing about this issue.
Simple. . . and false. Observe.
Last week, one of the whiners in the anti-Redskin movement made the comment that the Kansas City Chiefs better change their name too, because she considered that just as offensive.
BAM! In races Florio to slam the Chiefs, right? Actually, no. See, all those principles Florio spews against the Redskins apparently aren’t principles after all. Indeed, they don’t apply with the Chiefs because “[t]here are fundamental differences between the Chiefs and the Redskins, especially that dictionaries define ‘chief’ as a term of respect and ‘redskin’ as a slur.” In other words, society doesn’t see chief as an insult, so it doesn’t matter to Florio that this whiner is upset by that word. Do you see the problem? His entire anti-Redskin argument is premised on the idea that if one person is offended, then that is enough. What society wants is irrelevant. But when it comes to the Chiefs, Florio suddenly claims the word needs to be objectively seen as offensive by society before this can be considered an issue. If that’s true, then doesn’t the fact that the public supports the Redskin name and doesn’t see it as offensive by a 9-1 margin pretty much neuter Florio’s argument against that name? Of course it does, but he’s a liberal and he doesn’t care about consistency.
What he’s done is take his own prejudices and turn them into objective reality. He sees the word “Redskin” as offensive and thus, he wants it banned and he comes up with broad ranging "principles" to support his argument and dismiss the desires of the public. On the other hand, he does not see the word “Chiefs” as offensive and thus he rejects the idea that it should be banned, even as that contradicts every one of the broad principles he uses to support his attack on the Redskins. Basically, his principles apply only when he agrees with the outcome they would cause. So much for principles.
So much for the public too. Like most liberals, he only cares what the public thinks when the public agrees with him. Notice also that he’s not speaking for an aggrieved people as he proudly claims, he’s using them to get his own prejudices made a matter of public policy. In other words, they are worth protecting only so long as their desires are consistent with his.
Interestingly, since Amanda Blackhorse said this last week about the Chiefs, Florio has run ZERO articles about the Chiefs and their name. Yet, at the same time, he continues to run attacks on the Redskins using the same false logic he won’t apply to the Chiefs.
Finally, I guess it’s worth pointing out too that once again, when you are dealing with the permanently aggrieved, they cannot be placated. No concession will ever be enough. Give them Redskins, they will demand Chiefs. Give them Chiefs, they'll demand something else. Any concession is just encouragement for them to try the next leg of their journey.
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Please, please, please do not let this clown anywhere near my beloved Tribe, and/or the ridiculous $9 million lawsuit recently threatened against the team.
Chief Wahoo for life!!!!
Eric, Sad to say, but I understand the team is phasing out the mascot.
We lost all the "Indian" teams in Colorado Springs in the 1980s. The whiners didn't care if they were insulting or inspirational. They just wanted them all gone.
Personally, I think the best way to fight this would be as a concern troll. Go out there and push "to eliminate every reference in our society to the Native American. We should make no mention of them on any team, as any mascot, as any street or as any city name." See what happens when they start to realize you are erasing them from history. I'll bet they change their minds pretty fast then.
I think I said my piece about this subject on one of T-Rav's articles about this subject a few months ago. Long story short, I have no problem with the Redskins' name or logo. And neither should the team. They have their self-inflicted problems- namely creating an entitlement culture where the players run wild and get whatever they want. (I'll go to the grave saying it was a mistake for them to fire Mike Shanahan.)
That being said, there is a team I have a problem with. That team is the University of Southern California Trojans. They claim to be the smartest school outside of the Ivy League. (In other words, the same claim made by That School Up North.) And I'm sure many of their graduates are very intelligent people. But, that being said...
Why on earth would you name your team after history's greatest dupes?!
I mean, come on! If you're gonna go Greek, could at least be bada$$ about it? -like Michigan State? (THIS...IS...SPARTA!)
I didn't mean to get too off topic, but this has always been a real head-scratcher for me.
Excellent tackle, Andrew!
Leftists who are offended by virtually everything they don't believe certainly don't care that most folks are offended by their inane babbling.
The bottom line is they crave power to force everyone to believe like they do.
I mean, without the Thought Police someone just might say something profound and interesting.
Enslaved and approved thought is an all out assault on liberty. The left doesn't want folks thinking for themselves.
I've lived in the DC area most of my life so I am kind of a default Redskins fan and I don't give a crap about the campaign against them.
Sportswriters are free to be idiots. Reasonable people are and will continue to ignore them. When people talk Redskins, they are talking the team, not American Indians.
I haven't paid a ton of attention to Native Americans, but I was friends with a Native American rights activist for a bit and even visited a few reservations with her. While some are doing quite well off of casinos, a lot of Native American communities have serious issues on their plates (suicide and alcoholism spring to mind).
Of course, as is the case with the black community since the biggest modern problems are internal and unglamorous, the sorts of people that get media attention are those for who the attention (rather than the community) is the first, second and third priority.
Exactly, Andrew, and the team voluntarily phasing Chief Wahoo to the background, putting him back on the reservation if you will, still isn't enough for these PC busybodies.
Rustbelt, That team up North? The U of Canada?
Ben, This is definitely about power. Notice how he declares himself the arbiter not only of right and wrong but what you need to believe to be considered an Indian. Essentially, he sets himself up as controlling everyone, all in the false name of speaking for these people. How do we know his claim to speak for them is false? Because he rejects his own "principles" when he doesn't like the position they are pushing.
Anthony, For the people pushing this issue, this is all about the attention and nothing else. Florio and the other journalists want to be seen as civil rights heroes. The group that keeps suing wants all Indian names removed from sport teams, even when there is no possible way of them giving offense. The last thing they want to do is tackle the poverty and corruption on most reservations.
What interests me here is how easily Florio got tripped up by the Chief's thing and how he's basically ignored it so he can keep right on being self-righteous about the Redskins name. It's hard to find stronger proof than this that Florio doesn't actually believe his principles, but instead only uses them when he likes the outcome they generate.
Eric, Exactly. Give these people an inch and they will demand a mile... and another and another and another. You can't win with these people except to tell them NO.
All I can say is: typical.
Yeah, I remember watching Hanoi Jane do the tomahawk chop at Atlanta Braves games when she was married to Crazy Ted.Most Leftists are such hypocrites...
I must admit I have not heard of this guy since I almost never watch ESPN. He really does seem to be a fool, but the argument is definitely typical of a liberal. You expertly picked apart his so-called argument counselor. Nice job :)
Thanks Jed! He's actually at NBC, but that doesn't matter... you've got his number right. He's a typical liberal who wants to see himself as more important than he is and he wants to abuse his position to get into politics.
Critch, I remember that. I ALSO remember some Indian groups screaming how racist that was, and yet neither Ted nor Madame Hanoi stopped.
tryanmax, Very.
Floria was actually being hypocritical before the Chief's thing when he says this:
● If anyone is offended by a word, then the rest of us have an obligation to conform our behavior to the desires of those people and we must stop using the "offensive" word.
Why? Because he only cares about those who are offended that agree with him not anyone who is offended by what he says.
Of course, there's no way to even communicate if one has to change words anytime anyone is offended, because there will always be someone offended even if it's just talk about puppies.
It's completely illogical and an all out assault on language itself.
Andrew asked, "That team up North? The U of Canada?"
That's just a little B1G humor, Andrew. Of course, not all schools use the phrase for geographic purposes. I , in good conscience, cannot use the school's name since that would only dignify the existence of my school's archrival. Let's just say it's about 70 miles north Toledo, 40 miles west of Detroit.
And on that note, I'd to extend a warm and friendly welcome to any readers from Maryland or Rutgers. Welcome to the crew, guys!
Rustbelt, I take it their mascot would be an X-Man?
Ben, I get the sense from liberals that they think principles are things that only get applied when they want something from other people, but they aren't meant as any sort of... oh... principle you might live your own life by.
Nah. They're too cheap to have a mascot. :)
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