Friday, June 19, 2015

Kit's Friday Thoughts: Trump, OPM Hack, & (No) Father's Day

By Kit

Well, it's been quite a week! The Chinese know all our secrets, Ross Per- I mean Donald Trump is in the race, liberals being liberal about a truly evil act, and this weekend is Father's Day, the day we honor the men who stood up and made an impact on our lives —or is it?

America’s Cyber Pearl Harbor

Given Trump’s campaign announcement, the hypocritical fake-black NAACP chapter president, and Hillary’s (second) campaign launch it is understandable that you might have missed the fact that the personal information, including Social Security numbers and medical histories (among others), of maybe 4 million government employees’, both current and former, is now in the hands of the Chinese government opening them up to identity theft and possibly blackmail.

And these employees aren’t just, say, County Executive Directors at the Farm Service Agency, though the Manning case should serve as a warning that even a lowly private can have access to a slew of sensitive documents. A large number of the victims have a security clearance. And among those we still don’t know how big the damage was, from a Reuters article, “According to a U.S. House of Representatives memo seen by Reuters, OPM knows what types of data were exposed to the hackers but not what data was taken.”

Art Bowker told Fusion.net his experience, “I called the contractor from OPM that was listed in the email, a 1-800 number, and wanted to know how big the breach was. Did they just get names? They couldn’t tell me. It’s like someone broke into my house and they won’t tell me what they took.”

You should read the rest here, it will scare you: LINK

Another bit: “He asked Seymour pointedly about the legacy systems that had not been adequately protected or upgraded. Seymour replied that some of them were over 20 years old ” Translation: Some of the systems are at least as old as Pokemon is —in Japan.

Now, you may be wondering, “How did they get into our systems in the first place?” Well, this bit from Ars Technmay provide an answer:
Unix systems administrator for the project "was in Argentina and his co-worker was physically located in the [People's Republic of China]. Both had direct access to every row of data in every database: they were root. Another team that worked with these databases had at its head two team members with PRC passports. I know that because I challenged them personally and revoked their privileges. From my perspective, OPM compromised this information more than three years ago and my take on the current breach is 'so what's new?’””



The OPM contracted their security work out to Chinese nationals within China.



WHAT THE FLYING F%&K?!?!?!?!?!?!
JUST WHAT THE LIVING %$#@%%$#^*&%I*)(@%#$@^&^*^&*$%# WERE THEY #$%#@$%* THINKING AND %$%^W#$@#$?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?

UGH!

And that’s all I have to say about that.

Really, all I can add is heads better roll at the OPM and the US better start hitting China back over this, if China did do this. Hack the Shanghai Stock Exchange, hit the Politburo, fill the government’s official website a bunch of illustrations of Karl Marx and Mao Zedong going at it Biblically.

JUST DO SOMETHING! GOD!


Donald Trump is in the Race! Reactions.
Donald Trump is in the ring and the reaction from the Right is split. The Republicans, especially those running, are quite upset because Trump will constantly spout off his half-baked, poorly-thought out views and demand that everyone treat them seriously and if they don’t or if they just politely disagree with him, expect him to indulge in a furor of name-calling and petty insults. And the moment they hit back he will pull out Reagan’s 11th Commandment, “Thou shalt not attack a fellow Republican”, without the slightest sense of irony.

It will be a massive distraction for the Republican candidates who are trying to run a serious campaign while giving the left plenty of ammo to attack the GOP as a party of clowns. Which is what they are doing already.

Conservative pundits and writers, on the other hand, could not be more thrilled. They are overjoyed at the amount of material they will get because Trump will constantly spout off his half-baked, poorly-thought out views and demand that everyone treat them seriously and if they don’t or if they just politely disagree with him, expect him to indulge in a furor of name-calling and petty insults. And the moment they hit back he will pull out Reagan’s 11th Commandment, “Thou shalt not attack a fellow Republican”, without the slightest sense of irony.

So they are rushing to their keyboards in anticipation, eagerly awaiting the next bit of lunacy to come from the man Jonah Goldberg said arguing with “is sort of like dressing up an adorable toddler in a Viking outfit and listening to it say that he will raid my village and slaughter all in his path.”

And the Talk Radio crowd is happy because they love a candidate who will constantly spout off his half-baked and poorly-thought out views… ok, you get the idea. They love him because he hits the notes they want candidates to hit, he attacks the targets they like to attack —Obama, the debt, ISIS, etc.— but he never offers up any concrete solutions. Because developing concrete solutions often mean compromising with the political realities that exist.

Remember that the next time someone complains about conservatives lacking “conservative solutions.” There are far too many conservatives who aren’t really interested in hearing “conservative solutions.”

Of course, the big concern among Republicans is that he will lose the nomination and decide to run third party and possibly pulling a Ross Perot. Really, Donald Trump could put Hillary Clinton in the White House. Think about that.


Charleston Shooting

On Wednesday, a racist white gunman went into a famous black church in Charleston and murdered 9 people, including the pastor. The man was caught Thursday.

Now, normally, I would say we should not politicize this event and just honor the memory of the victims but its already a bit late for that. In fact, the media is already filled with idiots making political hay of this. There is a lot for anyone to go through (gun issues, the idiotic comparison between the pool party incident and his arrest, etc.) but I want to pick on one particular point being thrown about right now.

From the Washington Post: “Shooters of color are called ‘terrorists’ and ‘thugs.’ Why are white shooters called ‘mentally ill’?”

The writer is “an associate professor of religion and Africana studies at the University of Pennsylvania.” So its possible she was very busy during the Navy Yard shooting a few years back where the shooter was (1) black and (2) described by nearly everyone in the media as mentally ill.

Actually, if I recall, it was that shooting when the media really began to look at mass shootings as a mental health issue instead of solely a gun issue.

Now, as for this recent shooting, I can’t speak for the left-wing media outlets in but for the more right-leaning persons, I’ve seen a general consensus that mental health is no excuse and that the guy was a huge dick.

Bill O’Reilly called him a terrorist Thursday night. And Iowahawk called him a terrorist Wednesday night. And numerous conservatives have called him a thug, a monster, or variations of the two. Jonah Goldberg called him a “ghoul”. In fact, I would say the general consensus among conservatives is that he is the reason we have a death penalty.

But, of course, the woman who wrote this is “socially aware” and being “socially aware” means you don’t have to be aware of anything that is being said outside your own tiny social clique. You can say that conservatives are making excuses for the shooter and receive nothing but nods of approval and “You are right”s from everyone you know. Salon will call you a genius.


Why I Will Not Be Honoring Father’s Day This Year

I will not be getting Dad a Father's Day gift nor will I give him even a simple a simple "Happy Father's Day" greeting. Why?

I just learned, courtesy of Angel Soft Toilet Paper, that Father's DAy is actually a day to be set aside for single MOMS not dads.

So, honoring a FATHER on Father's Day would be grossly inappropriate. I hope you can understand.

Ok, ok, I’m joking here.

Though Angel Soft actually did do an ad thanking Single Moms on Father’s Day.

Now, yes, I’m probably over-reacting, but I want you to imagine the reaction if a company decided to honor single fathers on Mother’s Day with a #HappyMothersDayDad campaign.

Which makes the whole thing ironic considering that Father’s Day was pushed by Sonora Smart Dodd to honor her single father, American Civil War veteran William Jackson Smart who had to raise 6 children after his wife died. From umc.org:

“In 1909 in Spokane, Wash., Sonora Smart Dodd listened to a Mother's Day sermon at Central Methodist Episcopal Church. Dodd's own mother had died 11 years earlier, and her father had raised their six children alone. Dodd felt moved to honor her father, and fathers everywhere, with a special day as well.”


Why I Will Not Be Honoring Father’s Day This Year

I will not be getting Dad a Father's Day gift nor will I give him even a simple a simple "Happy Father's Day" greeting. Why?

I just learned, courtesy of Angel Soft Toilet Paper, that Father's DAy is actually a day to be set aside for single MOMS not dads.

Thus, honoring a FATHER on Father's Day would be grossly inappropriate. I hope you can understand.

Ok, ok, I’m joking here.

Though Angel Soft actually did do an ad thanking Single Moms on Father’s Day. You can see it here, I'll admit, it is sweet and touching. LINK

So, yes, I’m over-reacting, but I want you to imagine the reaction if a company decided to honor single fathers on Mother’s Day with a #HappyMothersDayDad campaign.

Which makes the whole thing ironic considering that Father’s Day was pushed by Sonora Smart Dodd to honor her single father, American Civil War veteran William Jackson Smart who had to raise 6 children after his wife died. From umc.org:

“In 1909 in Spokane, Wash., Sonora Smart Dodd listened to a Mother's Day sermon at Central Methodist Episcopal Church. Dodd's own mother had died 11 years earlier, and her father had raised their six children alone. Dodd felt moved to honor her father, and fathers everywhere, with a special day as well.”

Now, you might say that given the rise of single mom households it is necessary to for us to honor them. But doesn’t that make honoring the men who do stay and become good fathers even more important? I would argue, yes.

Also, there is another matter. Quite a few writers have raised concerns about a crisis of masculinity in this country and in the West in general. They claim that young men feel very unsure of what their place is in the culture and that media has not been helping. For example, some have pointed out that sitcoms have in the past 25 years been portraying dads as moronic bums (though it’s gotten a lot better in recent years) and use that as proof that society no longer values fathers. Now, while I think those concerns are often exaggerated, I do think at least some of the writers raise at least sometimes raise salient points about the way modern society values men and fathers. (Brett McKay does this well)

Yes, in the long run, the commercial is nothing I'm going to get too upset about. I’m not going to be boycotting Angel Soft, because (1) I don’t care and (2) I never really pay attention to the brand of toilet paper I’m buying; I just buy what I see on the shelf. And I'm not going to call for the director and CEO and the entire cast to resign in disgrace because I'm not a Social Justice Warrior.:-)

But I can’t be the only one who finds it at least a bit disconcerting that a company would choose to run an ad like honoring mothers on Father's Day.

What do you think?

*Note: Modern Family’s Phil Dunphy is no Andy Taylor but he might as well be compared to the sitcom dads of the 1990s (Ray Barone, Tim Taylor, Homer Simpson, etc.).


Miscellaneous

Alexander Hamilton is getting booted from the $10 bill and being replaced by a woman! You know, the born-out-of-wedlock immigrant who helped get us out of debt and built the Department of Treasury is not good enough to grace the $10 bill. Now, the Treasury Department has clarified that he will still be on the $10 bill, just somewhere else.

But a lot of people are pissed and have taken to twitter with #KeepHamilton or #SaveHamilton (as I encourage all of you to do) but, unfortunately, it seems not enough people even know who Alexander Hamilton was or why he is important.

Also, the “right” people are happy and that is all that matters.

Alan Wolfe, a political science professor at Boston College, argues that libertarianism is very similar to Stalinism. Really.
LINK

Heather MacDonald on the rise in crime resulting from anti-police activities. Welcome to the 1970s. LINK

A Jezebel blogger tried to get a tattoo on her neck, however most professional tattoo artists do not do neck tattoos on people not already largely inked so he refused. She reacted how you would expect; by publicly shaming him and his business. He replied. It. Was. Epic.
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On a similar note, in case you have not been following GamerGate it appears they have won a solid victory. Far-left radical feminists Anita Sarkeesian and John McIntosh (and make no mistake, they are both very far left and radical in their politics despite what the media would have you believe) may have finally gone a bridge too far in their harsh criticisms of the trailers for Fallout 4 and Doom 4. It seems they echoed of Jack Thompson's attacks on gaming in the 1990s. Comparing someone to Jack Thompson is among gamers what comparing someone to Joe McCarthy is in Hollywood. He is not someone you want to be compared to if you want to go far in the gaming industry. Breitbart.com has the story here:
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Mark Ruffalo has endorsed Bernie Sanders, instead of Hillary, even saying Hillary should more or less look to Sanders. In fact, Sanders is getting a number of celebrity endorsements.
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Brian Williams has been moved to MSNBC. As Charles C. W. Cooke put it, “I’m charmed by the idea that it needs explaining to the public why Brian Williams isn’t honest enough for NBC but perfect for MSNBC.”

Prayers for Michelle Malkin’s daughter and family.
LINK

Something fun: Rachel & Jun are a Japanese-American couple who put up blogs about Japan largely from the POV of American expatriates. I highly recommend watching their’s, her’s are typically well-researched and quite fascinating insights into Japanese culture. This week, she did a video on “head size” in Japan, apparently, smaller heads are attractive in Japan and its not often to hear a Japanese man or woman complement you on your small head or complain about his or her big head. Take a look and then watch some other videos they’ve done! LINK

Have a nice weekend and a Happy Father's Day!

(See, told you I was joking.)

43 comments:

Anthony said...

Kit,

There is a typo in your post. Just wanted to point it out before some liberal blog catches it and makes hay of it. I think you meant to say honor the shooting victims.

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Now, normally, I would say we should not politicize this event and just honor the memory of the shooters but its already a bit late for that.
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Anyway, I agree with your point that it is insensitive and insane to start trying to capitalize on this (I doubt any cause is going to gain from this in any way, but I digress) before the victims' bodies are cold, but many of the obsessed can't help themselves.

Anthony said...

I don't get the adverse reaction to a company tipping its hat to single moms on father's day. Yeah, parts of the left would probably object if someone did something similar for fathers on Mother's Day, but I see no need to match them.

Anthony said...

Kit,

The Bigs is a weird place to go for game analysis. Nobody has been paying attention to the fringe's twitter wars, they have been focused on a spectacular E3.

Both MS and Sony went at each other hard, and both put on spectacular shows (the less said of Nintendo's the better), though by common consensus Sony's edged MS's because of crazy surprises like the reemergence of feared dead The Last Guardian, the announcement of a kickstarter for Shenmue 3 and the fact Final Fantasy 7 is getting an HD remake.

A lot of observers were struck by how prominent female characters were at E3 2015. Think Tomb Raider, Horizon: Zero Dawn (an amazing looking original game in which a woman fights robot dinosuars), Assassin's Creed Syndicate (one of the two main character is female), Dishonored 2 (now there is the option to play as a female character), Halo 5 (there is a female member in the four person team), Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Recore (an original adventure game being funded by MS) and Gears 4 (this time the partner is a woman, not a dude).

While Sarkeesian deserves a measure of credit, I think what is really driving the change is the retail game's industry's determination to appeal more to women without losing the males that are the overwhelming majority of its current audience.

More female and stronger female characters isn't something most gamers have a problem with so that is a change game companies could safely make. Toned down action would piss off a lot of action game fans so on that score Sarkeesian is going to wind up disappointed.

In summary, I think the game industry is going to continue to diversify in an attempt to earn more money. But its going to be real diversity because the industry recognizes that different gamers want different things.

The fringe types on both sides who want the entire game industry to do one thing one way are going to be perpetually disappointed and as a longtime gamer who loves games as they are but also enjoys surprises I think that is a very good thing.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

IRT the church shooting, the hysterical anti-gun harpies do this every time there is a mass shooting, so it was entirely predictable. I don't believe they will ever stop, and they also will never be able to explain how punishing law-abiding citizens, who wanna protect themselves and their loved ones, will stop these evil, murderous scum from committing these heinous acts, since it won't.

I predict Obama will attempt another executive action to enact some form of anti-Second Ammendment measure, or he will have one or more of his Czars do something to bypass Comgress, which they have already been doing anyway.

And as usual, the anti-gun media and the anti-gun politicians are again, blaming the NRA, conservatives and republicans, although they can't coherently explain how the usual suspects are to blame, but that doesn't matter to them.
Their goal is to change public perceptions.

Not only has Obama jumped on this bandwagon, again, but he lied when he said multple shootings don't happen in other advanced countries.
As much tv as he watches you would think he would know that (of course he does).


USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Anthony, I wasn't gonna get a PS4, but since they announced they are remaking FF7 I am seriously reconsidering it.

As for games having more women, they have been doing this for awhile. Many games have the option of playing a male or female character. I also think that is a good idea. The vast majority of gamers have no objection to that.

Of course, that isn't actually what the SJW's want. They want the women in the games to be just like them, spouting propaganda to support their idiotology.
I'm not too concerned about this, however, because those type of games will never sell, but they never stop trying to badger the game makers into doing this.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Kit, I always pay attention to the toilet paper I buy, because 1-ply sucks.
Also, when you get to be my age you're gonna want to get the softest toilet paper. Trust me on this.

Incidently, Navy, govt. issue toilet paper sucks. Not sure if the other branches of the military have the same type of rough, single ply (only a commie could love) masquerading as TP, but I'm willing to bet they probably do.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

That Jezebel blogger was serious, but it really reads like an Onion parody, lol.
BTW, the tattoo artist she was trying to shame has gotten more business as a result. :)

Kit said...

Anthony,

Oops! Fixed. That is why you should always write your work early.

Critch said...

Where do I start, let me count the ways..We also called about the letter we got form OPM and TA-DA! we got the same answer you did,,,"We don't know, etc..." which sounds like "We don't care,," to me. On to Donald Trump; it beats the Hell out of me,,,he is a very strange person. Why he does what he does is beyond me....maybe the Dems are paying him to run on the GOP ticket to cause problems.....Bernie Sanders, the likeable little Commie hasn't a chance, but he could, on an outside chance, cause O'Malley to look good to a chunk of Dims, and Hillary could lose again...liberal politics makes my head hurt..I was listening to the SOBs on Morning Joe this morning wringing their hands over what happened in Charleston. it was terrible, and that little murderous bastard will pay the price,,,however, there are no laws that would have stopped him..I'm confused abouit the situation in SC. Did the young man buy the gun at a store or was it given to him? I've heard both as truth. If given to him, well, apparently some laws were broken because he had been arrested for felony drug possession and trespassing, both would have put gun sales on hold until they were worked out. If he passed a background check at a gun store, then the police weren't reporting things like they should. The Morning Joe folks were all upset that it was a race crime, which it appears to be, but let's put this in perspective...how many blacks were killed by other blacks across our country on the same day this happened? A bunch...I expect a count of Chicago, Newark, Memphis, St Louis and New Orleans would go way over 9. I love it when the lefties say they aren't wanting to outlaw guns; BS, yes they are. That is their goal, maybe not tomorrow but they want it to happen. My disgust for the Left runs deep on many issues.

tryanmax said...

Anthony,

I don't get the adverse reaction to a company tipping its hat to single moms on father's day.

To use the parlance of the perpetually aggrieved, it's tone deaf.

tryanmax said...

RE: Tattoo-lady -- She exemplifies a disturbing trend among so-called liberals. It's not enough for them to have the right to do nearly anything they please. Nor are they content to be able to associate with like-minded individuals who can assist or accompany them in what they do. No, they also demand the right to conscript others into their schemes. When so-called liberalism reaches that juncture, it has broken with liberalism all together. Especially when you consider the likelihood that, if whatever plans go awry, the conscriptor will throw the conscriptee under the bus.

tryanmax said...

RE: Libertarianism - As of this time, I'm pleased to see there is not a single comment in agreement with that article. What a kook!

BevfromNYC said...

I have to object to you calling "mental illness" an "excuse". It not an excuse. It is the reason. As I pointed out to someone last night who posted a meme with photos of all white men (McVeigh et al.) stating that only white Christian men are mass murders. I replied that the only thing these men had in common was mental illness. Someone responded "well they are all white" so I posted a photo of Colin Ferguson to make my point - No, it is mental illness that is the tie that binds these people together.

We have a laws in every state that prevent getting people the help they need. It's not guns, it's not propaganda, it's not the internet, it's diagnosed/untreated mental illness.

Kit said...

Bev,

I never said it was an excuse, what I was trying to point out is that liberals are implying that conservatives and Americans as a whole are using mental illness as an excuse for white shooters because they are racist or something.

Kit said...

Tyranmax,

Everything you said about the Tattoo Lady of Jezebel and that trend among liberals is true. They attack them for not complying and if they do and things go wrong they throw them under the bus.

But, your use of the term "Tattoo-lady" reminded me of this little ditty by Groucho Marx: LINK

AndrewPrice said...

Kit,

On the China thing, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! It's almost impossible to believe that anyone is that stupid, but hey, that's the government. In terms of being worried about blackmail, I wouldn't sweat it. You don't understand how worthless and slug-like government employees are. I suspect it's impossible to blackmail them. Bribe them with free donuts, hell yes... blackmail them? no. And even then, there probably aren't more than 100 employees in the whole government who do anything worth bribing.

On the shooting, I'm sorry, but I don't care. The victims were black and I'm white and I've been told I don't care about black people because I'm white, so I don't! Thank you for the free pass Mr. Sharpton! :D Just kidding. I feel bad for the victims and I think they should execute this turd brutally... joint by joint... but I'm done with the shameful political exploitation of these things.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, That is the problem with liberalism. It trends toward totalitarianism. And the latest way to get there is through "freedom." Basically, you demand "freedom," which sounds great only what you really mean is that other people are forced to accept you and conform to your wishes in regard to what to you want.

The only difference between a good liberal and a good Nazi is that the liberal has deluded themselves into thinking that their abuses only hurt "the right people." Oh... wait.

Kit said...

"I feel bad for the victims and I think they should execute this turd brutally... joint by joint... "

I'm old-fashioned when it comes execution; hang him or shoot him at dawn.

AndrewPrice said...

People fear pain, not death. If you want to discourage these people as much as possible, then executions need to involve intense suffering.

tryanmax said...

Andrew, at least in the 20th century, liberals distinguished themselves from classical liberals. The new bunch like to claim the classical legacy while they talk and act like Bolsheviks. Their idea of freedom is it stems from equality, which will be rigidly enforced by the state. In other words, their idea of freedom is a freedom from differences.

My kids provided a perfect example of this line leftist reasoning, along with an illustration of how childlike it is. My son was balancing a balloon on a stick when my daughter demanded that I make him stop on the grounds that she could not do it herself. *Ta da!*

tryanmax said...

Andrew, I too oppose the death penalty in favor of maiming.

Kit said...

Then lock him up in Supermax for 10-15 years. Let him go mad in a tiny cell to the point where he is begging for the sweet release of death.

Kit said...

And then after that 10-15 years, execute him.

AndrewPrice said...

All right, Mr. Kit. Let's negotiate. In exchange for giving up maiming, I will take lock them in a tiny cell until they beg for death and thee execute them later... if you throw in a tiger for a roommate... or a clown with dysentery.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, You are absolutely right. Despite their claim to want individuality blah blah, what they really want is sameness. That is their goal... total equality in all things. And they absolutely don't mind if that equality is set at a very, very low level... lowest common denominator. (Actually lower, lowest person denominator, because requiring a common denominator would be exclusive.)

Kit said...

"To my mind, conservatism is gratitude. Conservatives tend to begin from gratitude for what is good and what works in our society and then strive to build on it, while liberals tend to begin from outrage at what is bad and broken and seek to uproot it." —Yuval Levin

Robert L. Hedd said...

USS Ben (Ret) said........Incidently, Navy, govt. issue toilet paper sucks. Not sure if the other branches of the military have the same type of rough, single ply (only a commie could love) masquerading as TP, but I'm willing to bet they probably do."

USMC 0311 (Vet) said......"Toilet paper? What's that"

Bob

Robert L. Hedd said...

Oh and Ben.....We always appreciate the ride to the fight. Go Navy!

Ooorah!

Bob

Kit said...

A (very) small misstep for Hillary Clinton.
LINK

Nothing big in the grand scheme of things but still amusing nonetheless.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, It's no misstep at all. It will fit perfectly with what liberals want to believe. What it shows, by the way, is the difference between liberals and our far-right flank.

Liberals: See, the Pope agrees with me on X! He's on our side 100%! He's our Pope and you people should all vote for us. (Just ignore the parts where he disagrees with me, those are typos and should be suppressed by the media.)

Talk Radio Conservatives: The unreliable New York Times said the Pope said something I don't agree with!!! He's the ENEMY!!! He's destroyed the church by making it 100% liberal!! It supports the left now!!!! Burn down the church!!!

Which is smarter politically?

Kit said...

"Just ignore the parts where he disagrees with me,"

Like the part where he basically says the left's rhetoric on global warming is incompatible with support for abortion. Really, he said that:

" Since everything is interrelated, concern for the protection of nature is also incompatible with the justification of abortion. How can we genuinely teach the importance of concern for other vulnerable beings, however troublesome or inconvenient they may be, if we fail to protect a human embryo, even when its presence is uncomfortable and creates difficulties? “If personal and social sensitivity towards the acceptance of the new life is lost, then other forms of acceptance that are valuable for society also wither away”."

AndrewPrice said...

Blah blah blah, I don't hear you. Hillary said the Pope agrees with me and the network news only talked about his stance on the environment. So what you say must be right wing lies.

That, my friend, is how liberals work. And any conservative who thinks they can fight that with logic or by showing quotes of what the Pope really said is delusional. Liberals are immune from things they don't want to hear.

AndrewPrice said...

Trust me, Kit, they do this on issue after issue.

Kit said...

Andrew,

They've also spent the past 48 hours since the Charleston shooting taking potshots (that are complete lies) at the Right.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, Of course they have. First, doing so is like another dose of Kool-Aid for their idiotic followers. Secondly, they can do so with a free pass because the MSM won't call them on it... as they would if it was a conservative. Third, they know that conservatives will take the back and respond with stupid/racist things that reinforce the Kool-Aid.

Kit said...

"they know that conservatives will take the back and respond with stupid/racist things that reinforce the Kool-Aid."

I have not seen "genuine" conservatives saying anything racist.

AndrewPrice said...

typo: bait, not back

If you mean actual conservatives, then agree. If you mean the fringe, then I disagree.

Kit said...

Who has said what?

Critch said...

When that Army major shot up Fort Hood you couldn't the Left wing bastards to call it terrorism, including their leader, Sheik Obama. Strictly speaking, any attack like that is terrorism...and I don't care in a way if they call it that or not...it's too bad the little twit gave up so easily, I was so hoping he would try to shoot it out. But they never do, they're cowards...that's why no one ever attacks an NRA Convention.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, I haven't said that anyone has said anything about this incident yet, though I honestly haven't paid attention. I'm talking about the penchant of certain people to take the bait on these things and rush out and say things that confirm what liberals are saying.

AndrewPrice said...

Critch, I despise the left. They hate middle America irrationally and they excuse everyone who attacks middle America. They are essentially, by definition, traitors.

I agree about any incident like this being terrorism. If you kill people with the intent of causing terror or getting your "cause" listened to, then that is terrorism, by definition.

What it is not, however, is anything the left claims. It is not a reason for gun control. It is not a reason to push harder for leftist identity crap... in fact, it's the opposite. What's more, this case just like the last two or three is evidence that something is wrong with the psychiatric profession's reliance on medication.

Critch said...

As anyone noticed the weird shift on the Left this past few days...the deaths of nine innocent people by whackjob seems to be grounds for blaming the Confederate Flag for what happened...having a discussion on the merits of the Stars and Bars on the ground's of the SC capitol is one thing, but how it ties to the shootings in Charleston is beyond me...

AndrewPrice said...

Critch, That is the way of the left. They exploit an incident like this by just associating it with some other cause of theirs and then pushing that cause as if the two were completely linked.

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