Sunday, June 21, 2015

Top American Women? Really?

This one is going to upset any feminists who happen by. Good. How am I going to piss off these underachieving chickies? By mocking the achievements of the women feminists think are worthy of being placed on the $10 bill. In fact, let me be blunt: if this is the best that women have, then you girls haven’t done dick for this country!

What follows is a list of ten eight women prepared by a group of leftist chickies as the women they would like to see replace Alexander Hamilton on the $10 bill... which will now only be worth $8.60 because women are worth less than men earn less than men. Funny that they can’t come up with a top 10, isn’t it? Anyways, let us see if any of these penis-deficient individuals are indeed worthy of being put on our currency:

Francis Perkins: Who? That’s what I thought when I first head the name. Is she Anthony Perkins’ mother? Marlin Perkins’ wife? Or does she work at Perkins where they make really nice muffins? No. Apparently, her claim to fame is that she’s the first woman appointed to the US Cabinet. wonk wonk wonk wonk

So her claim to fame is being the first woman to do something that hundreds of other men had done in the past. What’s more, her claim to fame really boils down to being that a man gave her a job. Aim high ladies. Her achievements in the job, by the way, were to “be instrumental” (because she didn’t actually do anything concrete) in passing the New Deal. In particular she got a woody for the first minimum wage and labor standards, both of which destroyed jobs. Oh, and feminists claim she “was a catalyst” for women entering the civilian workforce during World War II. Oh good, maybe she can share the bill with Hitler who deserves the real credit for that one.

Eleanor Roosevelt: Let me see if I can simplify this: rich girl marries rich guy who becomes president and she changed his diaper when he got polio. Yep, another woman whose achievement is to be the wife of a famous man. Liberals like to beef this up by saying that she made speeches about popular liberal causes, but uh, so what? “Rich man’s wife reads speech! Film at 11!” Oh, and her husband didn’t love her. Hello, Hillary! Pathetic.

Emily Dickinson: Liberals claim she’s one of America’s greatest writers, but I dare you to tell me what she wrote. Apparently, she was a poet. And get this, only 12 of her 1800 poems were published in her lifetime and they were heavily edited by editors. In fact, most of her poems weren’t published until long after her death and then, again, they had to be heavily edited. It wasn’t until 1955 that her work was actually published in the form she wrote it... long after she was made famous.

Amelia Earhart: Flew a plane, got lost, died. Need I say more?

Patsy Mink: My first thought was that she was a terrorist from the 1970s, but that’s Patsy Hearst. Mink was a suffragette (yawn) and the first woman to get elected to Congress. Gee, so she’s famous for doing what thousands of others have done, only doing so without a penis. Gotcha. Her big achievement in Congress was to author Title IX, which has brought women’s sports up to the same level of interest as men’s sports! Oh, wait. Yeah, that didn’t happen. What Title IX really did was allowed a few thousand lesbians to get some exercise. Sadly, that puts her first on our list so far by a mile!

Susan B. Anthony: I know Anthony because of her failure on the SBA dollar coin. And when I look up what she did to earn being put on currency, it seems that she was a leftist busybody who worked with other leftist busybodies on issues like women’s rights, slavery, and temperance. I don’t see any actual achievements.

Harriet Tubman: Tubman is a black woman, which means the $10 would be worth only $6.90. She helped 13 slaves escape through the underground railroad (other sources say 300). This is a noble achievement, but did it change the nation? No, not like the publication of Uncle Tom’s Cabin or that Civil War thing.

Rosa Parks: Rosa Parks is famous for refusing to give up her bus seat to a honkey in Montgomery, Alabama. This started the Montgomery bus boycott. I can actually respect that, but any attempt to credit her with more in terms of civil rights is just public relations. Everything the Civil Rights Movement claims to have kickstarted in these high profile PR moments was already underway in the country for several years at that point.

So that’s the list. Seriously. Think about that. The only two even close to decent candidates are (1) a woman who helped rescue a few slaves and (2) a woman whose deed has been falsely mythologized into one of a dozen simultaneous “change the nation” events... for a nation that was already changing. The rest are do nothings, failed writers, women who got famous because men made them famous, and women who got famous for being the first women to do what thousands of prior men had done.

Is this really the best American woman can come up with? Don’t we have a Margaret Thatcher who literally reshaped the UK and Europe and revived a nearly dead ideology of common sense? Don’t we have an Indira Ghandi who reshaped India and is credited with its modern constitution or Golda Meir who shaped Israel? Don’t we have a Marie Curie who won Nobel Prizes (which meant something) for Chemistry and Physics? Don’t we have authors like Agatha Christie, Jane Austen, Emily Bronte and Daphne De Maurier?

Apparently not.

The real issue here isn’t why those sexist men have kept women off the $10 bill, it’s why aren’t there any American woman who are undeniably worthy of being on the $10 bill. When it comes to men, the cup (athletic supporter... heh heh) runneth over. Indeed, there are so many truly deserving men that you would need a hundred different bills to cover them all. Yet, when it comes to American women, there isn’t even one I would rank on the list of women I just listed.

That is pathetic.

But I suspect the real problem is the chickies making these lists. They don’t want women of achievement, they want chickies who did “woman identity” things, like being the first non-peniser to do something the penisers already did. That is what is truly pathetic... distant second (if that) is no achievement at all. How about we instead look for women of genuine achievement? How about these...
● Hedy Lamar... an actress who invented spread spectrum technology, which has become the technical backbone of modern cell phone and wireless technology.

● Oprah Winfrey... who runs a communications empire she built from the ground up, and who has tremendous influence with the public.

● Danielle Steel... best selling author alive (800 million books) and 8th all time (says Forbes)

● Sandra Lerner... co-founder of Cisco

● Estée Lauder... co-founded Estée Lauder Companies
Thoughts? Any others we can add?

85 comments:

EPorvaznik said...

Helen Keller -- Sure, an ardent socialist, but less of a struggle to suggest her for a lot of the non-political good she did for the blind than with several of the people listed above.

Abigail Adams -- Wife/Schmife, she's a patriot who brought out the best in her husband. More than good enough for me.

Shirley Temple Black -- Accomplished actress and diplomat, and my new #1 after learning her anti-communist role in the Velvet Revolution, accompanying Vaclav Havel on his initial visit as Czechoslovakian President nice icing, too. Bummer that'd work against her with the power-players making the decisions.

Kit said...

I just want it to be known that Andrew's opinions are his own and do not reflect the views of me or anyone else at Commentarama.

Kit said...

Abigail Adams
Susan B. Anthony
Helen Keller
Harriet Tubman
Shirley Temple Black

Kit said...

But, really, Abigail Adams would be my pick.

Anthony said...

Andrew,

Decades before she became famous for refusing to give up her seat, Rosa Parks was a longtime civil rights activist. She got her start during the Scottsboro 9 trials in 1931 and for many years was the NAACP's lead investigator on rape cases.

Rape of black woman was fairly common in the South because of victims often being afraid to testify (the home of Recy Taylor, one of Rosa Park's most famous clients, was firebombed two days after she was kidnapped at gunpoint and gang raped on her way home from church), authorities being reluctant to prosecute and juries being even more reluctant to convict.

The strategy of the black community in such cases was to try to get them covered by the national and international media.

Its also worth noting that while Rosa Parks not giving up her seat was framed at the time as her simply being tired, at the time of her refusal, she was sitting on an NAACP committee which had been planning a bus boycott and looking for a perfect victim (the middle class, employed, small, long married, well spoken Rosa Parks was perfect for the role).

The NAACP knew from long experience that any victim that was less than perfect would be viewed as having earned their treatment, so anyone who cursed cops as they were arrested or even just lacked sufficient eloquence to come across well in a press interview was off the table.

Rosa Parks knew she couldn't be a perfect victim and an advocate at the same time, so she halted her social activism for a few years before resuming in the 70's.

So while in the public mind Rosa Parks is defined by one act, she wasn't a one trick pony.

As for your 'nation already changing' argument that sounds a lot to me like dismissing the efforts of firefighters to extinguish a fire consuming an occupied building because eventually the fire might have gone out on its own. Even assuming that unknowable argument is true, I don't see how one could argue that them hastening the process didn't avert a lot of suffering and death.

LL said...

I'm a little sad that Jenner didn't make the top 5. He still has his junk but I think that the reality TV show will be about him getting it surgically removed, thus qualifying him as a woman of courage. He wouldn't be the first dude to look like a lady, but he's clearly the first decathlon winner to do it on reality TV.

tryanmax said...

Funny that Uncle Tom's Cabin was mentioned, but Harriet Beecher Stowe was not nominated to grace the $10 bill. Apocryphally, it's said that upon meeting Stowe that Abe Lincoln remarked, "so you are the little woman who wrote the book that started this great war."

Of course, Stowe failed ito berate the president for his condescending "little woman" remark, thus relinquishing any feminist cred she might have garnered in that moment.

I'm surprised the original list didn't include Margaret Sanger--not that I'd nominate her--but I'm surprised.

AndrewPrice said...

Thanks for throwing me under the bus, Kit! Actually feminists don't drive buses, they drive Subarus, so thanks for throwing me under the Subaru, Kit!

AndrewPrice said...

Eric, Shirley Temple was America's Sweetheart for several generations. That probably should count for a lot. I wasn't aware of her anti-communist activities! Cool! :D

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, You came up with another interesting one I liked a lot - Julia Childs. She is basically the person who invented our home chef culture which turned America into a culinary powerhouse and has dominated our televisions and real estate ever since with the ever-growing yuppie kitchen. Heck, she could probably ultimately be credited with the birth of Lowes and Home Depot as Americans now LOVE to keep updating their kitchens.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, First, thanks for the added information on Parks. That is interesting.

On the "nation already changing," the reason I say that is that the Civil Rights movement and the left in particular has spun the Civil Right movement's history in a way that entirely shifts all the credit to a handful of Civil Rights leaders from the 1960s and white liberals like JFK, and it pretends that this was done against an American public who actively supported the racists or didn't care and didn't want change and Republican opposition.

Indeed, the way this is taught by leftists in school and how it appears in films and in leftist political speeches, the nation was a bunch of racists until JFK came along and opened their eyes, which coincided with Parks and King's speech and a couple others. Only then did white (northern) America decide it was time for a change when liberal white college students descended on the South and marched with blacks, all of which culminated in the first civil rights law, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That is how this is taught. That is how Hollywood presents the history. That is how Democrats/leftists and the Jessie Jacksons of the world present it. That is what foreigners think is the truth.

But it's not true.

They ignore the fact that Truman began military desegregation in the 1940s and Eisenhower finished it in the 1950s. The first attempt at a civil right law was passed in 1957, with another passed in 1960 because the first one wasn't working right -- one of the things the 1957 Act did was establish the DOJ office of civil rights. This law followed the Supreme Court's 1954 ruling in Brown and several other seminal racial equality cases as well, which would become the basis for American civil rights law and which were very clear that discrimination was legally at an end in the United States.

So what you have is Congress in the 1950s, Eisenhower, Truman and the early 1950's Supreme Court already pushing hard on civil rights... something they could not have done if the public outside the South wasn't pushing it as well. Also, more Republicans than Democrats supported all of this stuff.

Now, I'm not at all saying the Civil Rights Movement was irrelevant. First, as you note, its history goes back long before the 1960s. It certainly identified the cause and made it a hot button that people wanted changed. Secondly, there is no doubt that their efforts kept up the pressure to keep fixing the Civil Rights laws until they got it right with the 1964 Act. Third, their efforts made it impossible for the South to just ignore the change that had been legally required and was already culturally desired by the rest of the country. In other words, they exposed the attempts by Southern racists to just ignore the law as they had managed to do in the 1870s and forced the federal government to enforce its own laws this time. So without them, I doubt things would have changed as fast in the South... but the PR myth that the 1960s events were the sole cause of change is false and denigrates the public at large, which already wanted this change in the 1950s.

That is my point.

AndrewPrice said...

BTW, The thing I attribute the change in American attitudes to in the 1950s was WWII. With all the GIs coming back, they had seen the cost of allowing racism under the law and as policy, and I think that made them (1) much more inclined to want to end legal discrimination everywhere, and (2) much more activist about other places than just their local areas.

That's why US policy became anti-colonialist in the 1950s, with the US undermining the UK in India and Suez. I think that's also what pushed northern and Western America to get serious about changing the South. And I think that mentality is what shaped the Baby Boomers.

AndrewPrice said...

LL, You know it would kill feminists if the first American "woman" put on our currency was a man! LOL! They would be burning jock straps in the streets!

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I agree on Sanger, but they probably see that as a bridge too far. I don't think feminists want abortion looked at too closely by the public and recommending her would bring up too many warts.

On Stowe, I think the problem is this... a lot of people now see Uncle Tom's Cabin as a racist book. That seems to be an increasingly popular view on the left. They seem to think that the portrayal of blacks in it is itself racist. So I don't think you will see her on many lists by leftists of famous figures anymore.

tryanmax said...

The NAACP knew from long experience that any victim that was less than perfect would be viewed as having earned their treatment.

This is true for any movement, and it's something that present-day activists all seem to have forgotten. Defending criminals and deviants only serves to make the entire movement appear criminal and deviant. Of course, present-day leftists actively work to normalize deviant behavior, so there's a philosophical constraint on how far they can take that strategy.

LL said...

Andrew, as you well know, he wouldn't BE a dude -- clearly by the definition of the progressive left.

And even though the left has embraced the new Jenner with all their hearts, the fact that he still identifies himself/herself as a conservative Republican is a source of irritation -- as is the fact that he's a white, multi-millionaire fat cat -- who self identifies as a "lesbian" now...

When you think about it, he's hit all of the demographic points except being black. BUT now we know that a bit of spray-on tan can allow you be catapulted into the leadership of NAACP (in Spokane) and thus, a perm and a trip to the salon could qualify Jenner for a place on US currency.

AndrewPrice said...

Let me add too, that there are a huge number of women inventors. Kevlar was invented by a woman. Think of how many lives she's saved! Liquid paper was invented by a woman. A ton of consumer products were invented by women, like disposable diapers.

There are also historical woman that everyone wants to overlook. Betsy Ross... with the American flag. Annie Oakley or Calamity Jane in the west.

BevfromNYC said...

What about Sandra Day O'Connor. Barbara Jordon, or Jeannette Rankin (the first woman to win national elected office/first woman to be elected to Congress).

My favorite pick is Abigail Adams. She was our first true classic feminist Founder. She has as much to do with helping found our nation than any of the others. She represents all that our country supposedly stands for. If all else fails, there's always Hillary Clinton.

I object to taking Hamilton off our money though. If anyone deserves permanent status on our money, it's the person who founded the national bank.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, That's true. Pretty much anyone who engages in politics in any form will find that their enemies paint them in the worst possible light and use things like attacking the victim as a means of distraction. All sides do it.

AndrewPrice said...

LL, Yep. He is almost demographically perfect! LOL! Good point about the Spokane woman. All it takes now to be black is some spray tan, a side-show Bob haircut, and the willingness to lie about it.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I object to removing Hamilton too. I also think that if anyone should be put on the currency, it should be Reagan.

I like the Abigail Adams pick but apparently feminists don't. I'm not sure what she did to upset them, but she never seems to come up.

What's funny to me... actually, what's disheartening... is if you google "famous American women," you keep coming up with the same handful as those above. None of them seem to want to consider American women with genuine achievements outside of being women. There are so many and yet we never hear about any one them!

Kit said...

"BTW, The thing I attribute the change in American attitudes to in the 1950s was WWII. With all the GIs coming back, they had seen the cost of allowing racism under the law and as policy, and I think that made them (1) much more inclined to want to end legal discrimination everywhere, and (2) much more activist about other places than just their local areas."

I have a little saying: "The push for Civil Rights began at Dachau."

EPorvaznik said...

Let's also not forget baseball's role in changing public opinion, Mr. Robinson, as we know, in the National League, and Larry Doby, as far too few know, in the American League.

Kit said...

Andrew,

Abigail Adams was just a little housewife standin' by her man like some Tammy Wynette.

Forget that while managing her small farm (By herself) she managed to turn a profit while her husband was in Philadelphia.
Forget that she was considered highly intelligent by men such as Thomas Jefferson.
Forget that she was her husband's closest political advisor.
Forget all about that!

She was just a little bitty housewife who did nuthin'.

#AbigailForThe$10

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, I think your saying is wise. I think the whole GI experience changed the American mindset. I think they came back more ready to change the world. I think they came back with a stronger sense of right and wrong. I think they came back with a greater sense of being one nation and wanting the entire nation to live up to the American ideal.

I don't know if any of that would have happened without WWII and without Hitler being so detestable.

AndrewPrice said...

Eric, While baseball's influence in the past twenty years has mainly been limited to steroid scandals, baseball is undeniably the sport that shaped this nation until football became "the thing" in the 1970s.

AndrewPrice said...

BTW, baseball too integrated in the 1940s and by the 1950s, the percentage of black players matched the population.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, I don't know what feminists have against her, but they never mention her. My guess is that she is similar to Eleanor Roosevelt and they don't want to diminish ER by putting up a similar competitor.

Anthony said...

Andrew,

I always keep in mind that the celebrated civil rights leaders are those who were around (more or less) at the end of the process. I'd say the movement for equality for blacks stretches back as far as the history of America does. Many prior activists encountered even more hostility and some were even more radical.

One interesting example is Paul Robeson. A man of tremendous personal accomplishments (I can think of no one in modern times who is his equal) whose activism (he lectured presidents about the evils of Jim Crow) and increasing radicalism (he eventually became a full out Communist) cost him everything. He right on a lot of things but also wrong on a lot of things.

Koshcat said...

Pretty sad list. I wouldn't nominate anyone to a list that is still alive so Oprah is out. Some of the reason women don't have a lot of accomplishments is they weren't allowed to. Here are some of mine:

Abigail Adams
Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley (Molly Pitcher)
Dolley Madison (defined the role of the 1st lady)
Jeanette Rankin (1st woman congressman and huge pacifist; only member to vote against going to war with Japan; you may disagree with her politics but she practiced what she preached)
Elizabeth Blackwell (1st woman physician in US; trained civil war nurses; involved with sanitation; established women's medical college)

There are more but these are a good start. Just because they were doing something the men had been doing doesn't diminish their involvement. Often they had to overcome great obstacles to achieve them.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, That seems to be true, that its the ones at the end who ended up the celebrated ones. I think it's a disservice though to the cause of equality and peaceful coexistence.

For one thing, I think that whites don't know the history before the 1960s because no one talks about it. What you have is the Civil War and then blacks vanish in Reconstruction until they appear again in the 1930s as gangsters. Then they vanish again until they suddenly appear again in the 1960s. That's kind of how black history gets taught, and I doubt very many whites know what life was like for average blacks in the South between 1870 and 1960.

For another, by excluding all but liberal whites from the Civil Rights picture, it "disenfranchises" non-Baby Boomer elitist whites from the movement. So rather than civil rights being a thing "we" did together, it becomes a thing "they did and forced on everyone else." I think there would be much greater ownership of it if it was something that everyone believed the whole country had a hand in rather than this small group, and greater ownership would mean people are more inclined to make sure it works right.

I think that also would cut the legs out from the racists on both sides who feel that this was a black versus white thing if people got that it was a black and white versus racist whites thing.

Unfortunately, that's not how it's been treated however.

Kit said...

The cruelties inflicted on blacks during the Civil Rights era of the 1950s-1960s paled in comparison to the violence of the 1870s-1900s Reconstruction and Redemption Eras.

AndrewPrice said...

Koshcat, Agreed, being the first woman to do something can definitely be an achievement, especially when it was done in the face of serious hurdles and it opened the door for a reshaping of the profession/activity.

As I see it, the deed is what makes the deed an accomplishment, not the identity of the person doing the deed, i.e. first woman, first black, first German-American, first blonde, etc. And doing what everybody else is already doing is not a real accomplishment in my eyes. The real accomplishments are the ones where people change the world. Thus, things like inventions, starting businesses, the creation of influential books, or doing something that shifts the culture are the true accomplishments to me.

That said, I can see a genuine accomplishment for a “first” if the person pushes their way into a previously closed activity or profession and opens the door for others. For example, the first women to get over all the hurdles and get elected to Congress, and thereby open the door for other women to get elected as well is a genuine accomplishment... not because she got elected to Congress, but because she made it possible for women now to get elected to Congress. But being "the first woman hired by Home Depot" doesn't do it for me.

Feminists seem too lose this distinction, however. They want to celebrate the mere fact that a woman was the first woman to do something. To me, that’s wrong. It dramatically lowers the bar of genuine achievement to the point of being a joke. It’s like calling people who get sick and “don’t give up” heroes. No. Genuine heroism is more than doing what everybody else would do too.

And what really bothers me about this list of women, which is almost always the same, is that it is populated by women who are famous for being married to famous men or women who are famous for being feminists, when it should be populated by women of genuine achievement.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, They did indeed, but I would honestly bet you that most Americans are unaware of them.

LL said...

Oprah couldn't be so honored until after her death. Maybe in their zeal to have a successful woman of color on a banknote, the progressives will bump her off?

AndrewPrice said...

LL, I would trust the Treasury to sort out the details and to make sure whoever ends up on the bill meets all the qualification... whatever they need to do to make that happen. ;-)

Critch said...

Abigail Adams, Clara Barton, I'm sure there are others, would be appropriate. My problem is getting rid of Mr. Hamilton as though he didn't matter..he mattered a lot. Soldier, writer, thinker, etc....I see no problem with some bills having Hamilton and other bills having whatever woman is picked...

BevfromNYC said...

I would trust the Treasury to sort out the details and to make sure whoever ends up on the bill meets all the qualification..

Andrew - I am certain that the economy would instantly recover and exceed all expectations, the seas would recede and the Earth would begin to heal if only we could simply change the face on our paper currency to a female.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Ayn Rand achieved a lot, but of course, the left would never consider her.
I concur, Andrew. Real achievements is what makes a difference, not titles.
Also, I agree, Shirley Temple Black, Abigail Adams, Martha Washington (who actually did appear on some silver for awhile), and so many other women who achieved success and helped change America for the better should be honored.

AndrewPrice said...

Critch, I agree. But the reason they are going to replace Hamilton is so that we are basically forced to accept the new money. If they put out a $25 bill or something, people could ignore it as they did the two politically correct dollar coins. But replacing the ten will make people use it.

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, I think that the two most influential female writers (and perhaps the two most influential American writers period!) are Ayn Rand and Margaret Mitchell ("Gone With The Wind"). Rand basically invented libertarianism and Mitchell defined "the South" for most Americans.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, It will indeed. It will magically inspire millions of unemployed women to find jobs and work hard... somehow.

Silly, isn't it?

Critch said...

How about Rosie the Riveter...?

EPorvaznik said...

>>I see no problem with some bills having Hamilton and other bills having whatever woman is picked...>>

Yes, this.

BevfromNYC said...

Critch - Well, if we are putting in Rosie the Riveter, I am putting in Lady Liberty! What could be more American than the Statue of Liberty the true symbol of freedom and democracy.

BevfromNYC said...

Critch and EPorvaznik - I agree. Using both is the perfect solution. We get to keep Hamilton who deserves to be on our paper money and add a deserving woman. How very conservative of you!

Kit said...

"Mitchell defined "the South" for most Americans."

For better or for worse (cough— for worse —cough).

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, She's French. I want to see some naturalization papers! ;-)

Actually, the Statue of Liberty would be awesome.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, True, but she did that thing. After she wrote that book, her view of "the South" became the America myth and I don't think that will ever change. That's a serious achievement when you can define an entire era with your book!

Kit said...

They are saying that Hamilton will still be on it just somewhere else. I think.

Personally, I'm fine with booting Andrew Jackson, a racist, genocidal, crony capitalist who had no qualms about railroading the constitution to make his base happy.

Kit said...

I agree on the Statue of Liberty.

Put below it, "Mother of Exiles"

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, Jackson stays... I love his hair! ;-) Seriously though, he's a Democrat, so he was forgiven.

In terms of Hamilton still being on the bill, why does it sound like "Where's Waldo?!" I can see it now... "Hamilton is still hidden somewhere on this bill can you find him?

Also, doesn't that actually make this whole thing worse? If the point is to put a woman on the bill, why does she need to share one with Hamilton? If she's worthy, give her her own bill. Idiots.

Kit said...

"Also, doesn't that actually make this whole thing worse? If the point is to put a woman on the bill, why does she need to share one with Hamilton? If she's worthy, give her her own bill. Idiots."

Politicians.

Kit said...

Nikki Haley calls for removal of Confederate flag from the state capital.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, If I were a feminist, I'd be furious about the half-honor. I would whine, "This is so wrong to say that a woman needs to be on a bill with a man, man!" Then I would cry as I listened to the smooth sounds of KD Lang as I drove my Subaru to the Wicca House for tuna free coffee.

AndrewPrice said...

Or is it dolphin-free? No... tuna are people too.

Kit said...

I don't know, I don't drink coffee.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Jackson was also responsible for The Trail Of Tears.

Kit said...

Ben,

Actually, that is what I was referring to when I said "genocidal" and "railroading the constitution to make his base happy." Among other things.

:-)

BevfromNYC said...

Well, that's a good point about sharing. Feminist wouldn't like having to share. So the only solution is to make new 77 cent bill to represent the plight of the American woman.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I was thinking an $8.60 bill.

Critch said...

Tuna sandwiches don't taste as good since they took the dolphin out...

BevfromNYC said...

I get the feeling that all who despise "Gone With The Wind" have never actually read "Gone With The Wind". They may have seen the movie, but never read the book. Because, though it can be construed as a love letter to the old South, Mitchell also takes aim at those who hung on to that "civilization gone with the wind" too. Because ultimately it is about how people survive when the only world they know (right or wrong) disappears forever.

AndrewPrice said...

Kit, I am serious about Jackson being forgiven. Think about this... Democrats on money:

Jefferson... slave owner
Jackson... Trail of Tears, crony capitalist, genocidal racist
FDR... Internment of Japanese
Wilson... creator of the Fed, got us into WWI under possibly false pretexts
JFK... drug addicted sex fiend who nearly caused a nuclear war and stole election through fraud

Now the ones conservatives like:

Hamilton... soldier, writer, director of national finance
Lincoln... freed the slaves, kept the country together
Franklin... inventor, wise-saying dude, patriot, horny
Washington... unbesmirched father of our country, started us right by not becoming a dictator

You tell me. Do you see a difference between our heroes and there's?

BevfromNYC said...

Hey, but Washington chopped down a cherry tree...so that makes him an anti-Climate Change/Global warming earth-killer! So yeah, he really was a conservative, wasn't he?

Koshcat said...

I would be in favor of getting rid of Jackson as well. That would make more sense. We could also move to removing people and just having places, such as Lady Liberty, or even consider animals. I love the Canadian Looney. We could put a picture of the delta smelt on the $10 so people can actually look at the animal destroying California agriculture.

I like my coffee tuna free as well.

I never read "Gone with the Wind" but the movie is so whiney. I like Faulkner's take on the south.

BevfromNYC said...

Personally, I prefer my coffee completely fish free. But that's just me.

EPorvaznik said...

Love the compare/contrast, AP, but no mention of Civil War bad-ass and post-war civil rights champion Ulysses S. Grant? Love me some fittys!!!

tryanmax said...

I prefer my dolphin to be tuna free.

Why I didn't think of her sooner? Lucile Ball.

Have at it.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, Lucile Ball? After what she did to that pie factory? Forget it! ;-)

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, The cherry tree thing is apocryphal, which means that like all liberal history... it's not true.

AndrewPrice said...

Eric, I can't believe I forgot the $50! Sad. My street cred as a rapper is going down fast.

AndrewPrice said...

Koshcat, The Delta Smelt would be funny... with instructions on how to cook it on the back! :D

BevfromNYC said...

Oh dear lord, "pie factory"?? It was a chocolate candy factory. How can you call yourself Americans?? Do you even know what Meatavegevitamin was? Oh, the shame...the shame.

AndrewPrice said...

Da Komrade, I am fully aware as is Meatavegevitamin. I and my American family eat it every noon for dinner.

So it wasn't a pie factory with the conveyor belt? Really?

BevfromNYC said...

https://youtu.be/0YGF5R9i53A

You have to be some kind of Commie, Andrew.

Rustbelt said...

Well, since this is a post about da goilz, and for all those who care and others who had no idea it was happening...

Team USA Womens Soccer beat Colombia 2-0 at a stadium in Edmonton this evening in the 2015 Women's World Cup. (Again, for those not aware, yes, this is a real thing. And Edmonton, according to Don Cherry, is a place believed by Calgarians to be the source of all evil and wretchedness in Canada. Hm...and all this time I thought it was either Moosejaw or Saskatoon.)

And speaking of which, I must say I'm disappointed. I thought the 51st State would do a better of hosting the W World Cup. And by "hosting better," I mean "completely outlawing vuvuzelas." And by that I mean anyone caught using, carrying, possessing, buying, smuggling, and/or discovered to having packed a vuvuzela in their bag (revealed by the airport X-ray), should be thrown into the deepest, darkest, oldest dungeon in Quebec City.

Rustbelt said...

And I cast my vote for Adigail Adams on the $10.

I also advocate the return of the figure of Liberty herself (the icon, not the statue) to the dime. She hasn't been seen since sycophants put egomaniac/economic parasite/wannabe dictator FDR in her place in 1946.

Additionally, I advocate the return of a much better Franklin- Ben- to the half-dollar in the place of a guy who's known only for getting his head blown off by a desperate, failed, wannabe revolutionary in Dallas. (Ben hasn't been on his rightful coin since 1964.)

Critch said...

How about Judith Resnik or Christa McAuliffe who died on the Challenger? There's some heroes.

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Hi Kit,
Yeah, I know that's what you meant, I just wanted to spell it out in case a leftard reads this. :)

Kit said...

Bev,

Is there something going on with your post?

USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

There's something fishy about fishy coffee.

True story: Usually the E-3 and below guys got the job of making sure the coffee pot was full of delicious, tasty Navy coffee.
We had a newbie make coffee once, and instead of getting fresh water to make the java he used salt water...from a firehose, because the closest sink to Combat, where we worked, was getting repaired.

Now, normally, an enterprising sailor would just go to another fresh water source, but the newbie wanted to save time (although he didn't since he had to drain the hose and put it back properly).

After that fiasco our Chief gave newbie a golden opportunity to clean the heads for a month.
Whenever I had the watch in CIC I chose a different tact. Whoever made the best coffee had that duty, however, he was rewarded by not getting the golden opportunity to clean the heads.

Needless to say, my watch crew had the best coffee. Officers from the Bridge, including the Captain and XO came to Combat to get their coffee.

BevfromNYC said...

Kit - Yeah, I was having some Blogger issues. It's up now...

tryanmax said...

So why is a toilet on a ship called a "head" anyway?

AndrewPrice said...

Ben, Salt water? Yuck! LOL!

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