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And thanks once again to our very own Tryanmax, another stellar debate poster....
if you dare to watch tonight's format for the Clinton/Trump Face-Off (sadly not of the death duel it sounds like...), is a "TownHall". It will most definitely be advertised as an event "with spontaneous, unrehearsed questions from random questioners in the unvetted audience that no one chose beforehand", or something like that. But it will really be an unspontaneous even where the questioners/questions will have been vetted before hand and to maximize Trump's failings as a human being and no questions about "e-mails", "national security breaches", "Obamacare", or "economic" issues. Oh, or about an upcoming nuclear war with Russia after Obama called them out for "crimes against humanity".
However with the October Surprise that has consumed social media this weekend about Trump being a "surprisingly" loathsome sexist [unknown only to anyone living under an melting iceberg in the Anarctic with no Verizon cell service], there most probably will be lots and lots of questions directed to Trump, but none to Clinton in the "sexual predators as candidates and/or spouses" category.
There will be no penalty for not commenting, not watching, or crying tears of agony...
13 comments:
I just read Trump held some sort of press conference with a bunch of Bill's old victims.
Yeah, I saw that. That was pretty predictable though. He's been waiting to drop this for months now. If nothing else, this is going to be like one of those "Housewives" reality shows.
Well, I watched with the sound off. It was much more palatable that way and I didn't feel the least bit compelled to put my head in the oven this debate!
I skipped the debate, but liberals are complaining that Hillary failed to score on Donald during the debate.
Sounds to me like 'Trump won'.
Having watched the debate, I think it was overall a draw with a slight edge to Trump.
Trump did what he had to do, which was to lay out all the Clinton scandals in order to please his supporters. Hillary and/or her surrogates obviously provided him the opportunity to do so. I think the effect of this is to raise Trump's floor and possibly lower Hillary's ceiling. Hillary still has superior numbers, but her margins just shrank (again).
For the first time, Hillary's bar was lower than Trump's. Basically, she only had to not die. Her performance might have been improved by an on-stage collapse and EMTs rushing to revive her. But I can understand why she didn't take that gamble. So Hillary also did what she needed to do, which wasn't much.
I didn't keep a good watch on the clock, so I'm not sure who won the first third, which is the part that people watch. I know Trump got his licks in before then, but that's all I'm sure of. Anderson Cooper got very peevish and then Raddatz followed suit, but I'm not sure if it happened early enough to hand Trump any points.
As for closing remarks (Say something nice about your opponent--sheesh, who didn't see that coming?) Trump nailed Hillary to the wall.
Hillary tried to slight Trump by complimenting his family and ignoring him. But Hillary's supporters like attacking the whole Trump family. She essentially repudiated some on her own side. That's not going to flip anybody, but it does hurt enthusiasm.
Trump, on the other hand, said that Hillary is a fighter and he respects that. I can't think of a better answer. It's almost perfectly neutral on the compliment/insult scale, you can't say it's backhanded without making the opposition's case for them. It's a fair statement, no one will dispute it. It's not vulnerable to charges of sexism except by the most contorted feminists. It serves to confirm whatever you happen to think about Hillary. Well played!
I didn't watch. Couldn't stand the idea. But I think Trump won because there is zero discussion on the left about the debate today. Instead, the left has gone into final nuclear mode, writing articles calling Trump the heir of "Hitler's fascism"... seriously.
Andrew, wow! They (think they) lost harder than I expected. There was virtually zero talk last night that could reasonably be linked to Hitler. Of course, Trump saying anything about vetting Muslims immigrants and Muslims self-policing sounds Hitlerish to the Dems. But, the fact that Trump was able to say those things directly to a Muslim woman without waffling or hedging is great optics. It says he's not embarrassed because there's nothing to be embarrassed about. It leaves Hillary to explain why that's a bad idea.
Also, how weird is the world when being suspicious of the religious group most openly hostile to the Jews is considered "Hitler-like"?
tryanmax, Liberals have a very strange view of Hitler, seeing as how these Jew-hating socialists try to claim Hitler the Jew-hating socialist belong on the libertarian right. But that's liberals for you.
In terms of the Hitler stuff, it didn't spring from the debate. I think it's just the next step in the shrill ladder being employed the left. The fact it's an issue today tells us that in their view the debate didn't give them anything better to discuss.
It never fails to amaze me how hypocritical the left can get. They're all pretending to be outraged by Trump's comments even going so far as to whine that this is what "creates a culture that condones sexual assault." Yet, the are pimping Hillary, who attacked the women her husband raped.
No sense of proportion there.
BTW, I still see nothing that tells me anyone on the left thinks Hillary won. They're all trying to change the topic and ignore the debate. And my handy-dandy Liberal-o-meter tells me that means Trump won:
Democratic big win -- suggests about rounding up/banning opposition, repeats talking points spewed at debate, talks about being "smarter" than conservatives.
Democratic squeaker -- Calls it the "greatest performance of all time," but avoids all details.
Tie -- Tries to use groupthink to sway opinions: "As every reasonable person knows, we won."
Republican squeaker -- Talks about their candidate making better points compared to "cheap shots" and "lies" by conservative.
Republican big win -- changes the topic. Whines about conservatives being Nazi racists.
That's a great rubric, Andrew. I think I might make an infographic.
PS - The left constantly asserts that the 1950s were the worst for women, even using the decade as shorthand for sexism, yet they demand Ward Cleaver on the GOP ticket.
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