Sunday, June 25, 2017

The Democratic Rage Problem

The left has an anger problem. Actually, it's a rage problem. In my whole life, two things have never been considered acceptable by anyone on any side: wishing someone dead and using violence against people who disagree with you. Those are taboo in America. Not on the left apparently... not anymore.

Check this out. This post could be hundreds of pages long, but I decided to shorten it to pick only recent examples and only clear examples of leftists being subhuman:

● A Bernie Bro and campaign volunteer SHOT and tried to kill Republican Steve Scalise and a lot more people. Where oh where could he get the idea that this is acceptable? How about people like this:
● Nebraska Democratic Party Official Phil Montag was fired when recordings of him saying this about the Scalise shooting went public: "This motherf***er – I'm glad he got shot" and "I wish he was f***ing dead."

● Nebraska Democratic Party Black Caucus Chair Chelsey Gentry-Tipton said the shooting was "so funny." She didn't resign. Here is her idiocy-laced statement: "Watching the congressman crying on live tv abt the trauma they experienced. Y is this so funny tho? Yeah, having a hard time feeling bad for them."

● A professor at Trinity College declared on social media that the first responders to the scene should have let the victims die because they are white. Seriously.
● Even after the Scalise shooting, a theater group, The Public Theater, assassinated Trump in their version of Julius Caesar. Then they tried to hide their donor list so people couldn't complain to their sponsors.

● Even after the Scalise shooting (and Kathy Griffin), wife-beater Johnny Depp jokes about assassinating Trump, asking when the last time it was that an actor shot a president and then saying it was time to do it again.

● Unfunny comedian Kathy Griffin cut off Trump's head in a bizarre video. She then blamed Trump for her own actions.

● Comedian Jim Carrey supported Griffin and says he "dreams of killing" Trump.

● HIV-spreader Charlie Sheen wished Trump dead on Twitter.

● Washed-up dopehead Snoop Dog shot Trump in the head in his newest video.

● Washed-up transvestite Marylin Mason kills trump in his latest video.

● Robert De Niro says he wants to "punch Trump in the face."

● Madonna told the Pussy-head rally that she "thought a lot about blowing up the White House." A new use for the word "blow" for that skank.

● Malignant tumor and quasi-cross-dresser Mickey Rourke said of Trump, "I’ll meet him in a hotel room any motherf*cking day of the week and give him a Louisville slugger. Kiss my motherf*cking ass you b*tch punk c***sucker." So articulate!

Orange is the New Black actress Lea Delaria, who did a campaign commercial for Hillary said, of the election that she wanted to "pick up a baseball bat and take out every f*cking republican and independent I see."

● Joss Whedon, whom many conservatives wrongly thought was a conservative, said: "I want a rhino to fuck @SpeakerRyan to death with its horn."

● Late Show contributor Larry Whitmore said, "Sorry everyone, I don’t wont [sic] to give him any more oxygen. That’s not a euphemism by the way; I mean it literally. Somebody get me the pillow they used to kill Scalia, and I’ll do it. I’ll do it!"

● Bedwetter Sarah Silverman tweeted that the military needs to perform a coup.

● Former Obama official Rosa Brooks also called for a coup.

● Hollywood director Paul Schrader (Raging Bull and Taxi Driver), said he sees the election as a "call to violence" and "We should finance those who support violence resistance. We should be willing to take arms... It’s time to actualize that violence." Josh Whedon approved of this.

● But hey, journalists don't want actors having all the rage. NBC and New York Times contributor Malcolm Nance called on ISIS to suicide-bomb Trump-owned properties.

● The Huffington Post needed to pull a piece calling for the "execution" of President Trump. The author also wanted Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and Steve Bannon executed. The guy who wrote this article, by the way, often whines about "bullying" and "extremism."

● Kellyanne Conway has been sent white powder in the mail and is under US Marshal protection

● Betsy Devos is under Marshal protection because of the number of credible threats she gets.

● Rep Tom McClintock attacked at town hall, tires slashed. 71-year-old female staffer of Rep. Dana Rohrabacker knocked unconscious during protest at Rohrabacker's office. Rep Tom Garrett, his family and his dog received repeated credible death threats. Leftist arrested by FBI over threatening to shoot Rep. Martha McSally. Tennessee woman arrested for trying to run Rep. David Kustoff off the road. Man arrested for physical attack on Rep. Kevin Cramer in North Dakota town hall.

● AEI scholar Charles Murray and Professor Allison Stranger attacked after speaking at Middlebury College. Stranger suffered concussion. Fires started to stop Milo Yiannopoulos speech at UC Berkley... and then Ann Coulter.

● Protesters in Philadelphia chanted "Kill Trump - Kill Pence" during May Day demonstrations.

● Anti-Trump protestors attack people all over the country: Pittsburgh attack, San Jose attack, Minneapolis beat an elderly man and attacked Trump motorcade, Tennessee Trump supporter attacked at garage sale, New Jersey Trump supporter attacked with crowbar, El Cajon Trump supporter chased and beat up, North Carolina GOP office firebombed, Connecticut attack. Trump supporters attacked at Cornell, a Maryland High School, a Florida High School, California High School, another Maryland High School, a Texas High School.

● An "Anti-bullying Ambassador" and Black Lives Matter supporter shoves 74 year old man to sidewalk, slamming his head against ground.

● Trump supporter beaten and dragged by car, another knocked unconscious by protestors at airport and repeatedly hit on head, another attacked after putting out fire started by anti-Trump protestors.

● A parade in Portland was cancelled after threats of violence against a Republican organization.

● The guy who killed the two guys in Portland who tried to stop him attacking a Muslim woman was a Bernie Bro.

And what about college professors? They're even worse.
● Do you remember Ugly-As-F*ck "professor" Melissa Click at the U of Missouri calling for "muscle" to inflict violence on a student reporter during their anti-free speech riots?

● "Professor" John Griffin of the Art Institute of Washington.. huh?... said House Republicans "should be lined up and shot."

● "Professor" Eric Clanton at Diablo Valley College was arrested for attacking people with a bike lock during a protest. He injured three Trump supporters.

● "Professor" Lars Maischak at Cal State Fresno tweeted, "To save American democracy, Trump must hang. The sooner and the higher, the better." He also called for money to be collected to erect a monument to honor "the Trump assassin."

● A "professor" at the U of Delaware this weekend mocked the student who ended up in a coma in North Korea, calling him "a privileged clueless white male who got exactly what he deserved." So he deserved to die for visiting North Korea? Talk about a lack of judgment and blaming the victim.
● Do you remember the attacks on Palin, where people wished her kids dead and her raped by "black men"? How about the smears against Trump's kids now? Baron is a particular target for venom from leftist celebrities.

This is just a small portion of the list. There is something seriously wrong with the left. Their leaders are causing it and their mindless drones are picking it up. Honestly, it's time to start arresting all of these people and giving them significant prison time, including the leaders. This is unacceptable in America. On the plus side, these celebrities and colleges are starting to whine about the death threats they get when they say these things... as if they deserved sympathy. Maybe that will teach them that they can't do this. But sadly, that lesson may end up changing America for the worse.

28 comments:

Anthony said...

Things are worsening but the current pattern has held since at least the Bush years.

Universities might detoxify (nowhere to go but up and they do partially rely on government funds) but nothing else could possibly change.

People called for coups and assassinations and played to the craziest fears of their supporters for years (there will never be another election, they will put you in chains, they will take your guns, they are secret foreigners, etc).

Establishment types who believe there are lines that shouldn't be crossed can and usually do condemn such things, but condemnation is meaningless at best, counterproductive at worse.

Since crazy talk and purity are so highly valued in modern presidents some hard left Hollywood celeb will probably be our next president.

AndrewPrice said...

The North Korea-issue professor was fired today. Good.

It's interesting that several of these people have been fired or ostracized, though others have not.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, I think you've missed the point. The point is:

(1) the level of violence and genuine threats of violence being used is unprecedented in America -- people are being beaten, shot and run over with cars because they support something these liberals don't. There is a crazy "must get violence revenge" mentality spread across large parts of the left. That's new and dangerous. Even in the 1960s, only a handful of people had that mentality and they were in the radical terror groups. Today, it's much more widespread and it's not condemned by the left's leaders as it was in the past. This idea that it's acceptable to go hurt an opponent is an invention (in the US) of the post-Obama world.

(2) The direct nature of the rhetoric is new too. In the past, the fringes played around with ominous hints to charge their supporters: "there's going to be a revolution" and asinine statements like "if he died, it wouldn't bother me." Even that was considered bad taste and generally led to sanctions by society.

The rhetoric that is being used now is way beyond that line. It is things that would have been considered death threats in the past or in the very least ultra-bad taste. It shows a depraved mind and probably mental problems.

Honestly, what do you think the world-wide reaction would have been if Paul Ryan has said, "Gee, I hope Gabby Giffords dies." Or Rush Limbaugh had said, "Obama needs to be assassinated... we need to start funding his assassin." Yet today, the leaders of the left flirt with this stuff.

There is an extreme qualitative difference between what is going on now and what happened in the past.

As for Bush, I think that's when it started. When the Democrats tried to delegitimize him after Florida, it began. When they started spewing their hate after Iraq, it got a lot worse. Now they've taken an even bigger step.

BevfromNYC said...

NEWS FLASH****This just in from the AP wire...

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is letting the Trump administration enforce its 90-day ban on travelers from six mostly Muslim countries, overturning lower court orders that blocked it.
The action Monday is a victory for President Donald Trump in the biggest legal controversy of his young presidency.
Trump said last week that the ban would take effect 72 hours being cleared by courts.
The justices will hear arguments in the case in the fall.

****Interesting. Oh, cue the "THIS IS GORSUCH'S FAULT! HE WAS ILLEGALLY VOTED TO SC! IMPEACH...blah, blah, blah"

ArgentGale said...

Excellent article on a disturbing phenomenon. I've heard about most of the celebrity statements though on Scalise most of the comments I've heard aimed at the Republicans in general was how they brought it on themselves by not supporting gun control mixed in with comments about how horrible it must have been for one of the police officers who defended him to have to do so for a racist, homophobic, oppressor Republican (said officer is black and a lesbian). This really has gotten way out of hand. I'll be damned if I know what it's going to take to end this mess, though.

tryanmax said...

I'm halfway down the list. Had to pause to react to this:

Betsy Devos is under Marshal protection because of the number of credible threats she gets.

Since when does the frickin' S̲e̲c̲r̲e̲t̲a̲r̲y ̲o̲f̲ ̲E̲d̲u̲c̲a̲t̲i̲o̲n̲ receive threats!?!? This is madness!!!

tryanmax said...

"Yet today, the leaders of the left flirt with this stuff."

You misspelled "vigorously hump."

tryanmax said...

Bev, RE: the SCOTUS ruling. It's my understanding that the affected agencies anticipated this and have been working on what they can in spite of the judicial stays. We'll know for sure in 72 hours.

AndrewPrice said...

tyanmax, The Devos one struck me too. What has gone wrong when a Secretary of Education is receiving death threats. The issue is, of course, that the left haunts colleges. It is their last playground and they aren't going to let her change any part of it.

But apparently, the number of credible threats against her is staggering. And I've seen several times where they tried to block her from speaking or tried to chase her back to her car afterwards.

AndrewPrice said...

Daniel, They have become unhinged.

What's it going to take? Either you start arresting people who make threats and try to intimidate, or you let this system run out of control.

That said, I think you're going see fewer leftists celebs spouting off in the future eventually. Right now, they are starting to get a lot of death threats when they do this crap. So far, they are just whining about it. But I do suspect that at some point a Depp or a Griffin will get themselves killed. Then the left will demand changes to the laws and will also learn to shut the hell up. That's my guess.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, Surprise! As I've said all along, there is no legitimate basis to object to this. It's all within the President's power. And if Obama had done it, the left would have said the same the whole time. This was just politics.

P.S. Now we get see if any of the "the world will end" claims by the left come true! Apparently, all of our doctors come from those six countries and still need to get here. And our colleges are filled with travelers from those countries. Could be tough times ahead... or it was all bullsh*t.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, The left has been flirting with poison here and, as always, it's going to bite them in the ass. It's not possible to encourage only the crazies from one side.

Anthony said...

Andrew,

1) The level of violence is without modern precedent and overwhelmingly liberal but crazy talk on the left side is mostly from celebs and professors, both groups are outside the party apparatus. They get denounced by elected leaders, but neither they nor their fans cared (people who generate income for them can make them care).

2) The direct nature of the threats is because crazy talk is a crowded, competitive arena. Calls for coups are common in recent history (the second person still holds elected office and to the best of my knowledge the party never denounced her) but generally they don't generate much worry if the crazy talker isn't wearing a uniform.

https://thinkprogress.org/retired-army-general-to-tea-party-group-i-would-lead-a-coup-against-the-u-s-government-43a91f51de8a?gi=937a9cf0540e. Vallely has called made his comments in a discussion with an Arizona-based Tea Party group last December, a recording of which the website Right Wing Watch recently acquired. “I had a call this afternoon from Idaho, the gentleman said, ‘If I give you 250,000 Marines to go to Washington, will you lead them?’” Vallely, who was Fox News’ senior military analyst during the Iraq War, told the group. “I said, ‘Yes, I will, I’ll surround the White House and I’ll surround the Capitol building, but it’s going to take physical presence to do things.”
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A former military expert at Frank Gaffney’s right-wing Center for Security Policy, Vallely shares his former employer’s support of the birther movement. He has been quoted as saying that’s he has had “retired CIA agents and other investigators go over [Obama’s] birth certificate that was produced and by far ten out of ten have said its a forgery.” Given the inability of previous far-right efforts to rally massive amounts of people to DC to promote conspiracies, however, Vallely’s endorsement of both the hypothetical coup and Operation: American Spring may not go far.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/politics/missouri-county-official-military-coup-barack-obama/index.html

Jefferson County Recorder of Deeds Debbie Dunnegan called President Barack Obama "our domestic enemy" and suggested the U.S. Constitution would give the U.S. military the authority to oust the president in a coup d'├ętat, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Wednesday.
"I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing?" Dunnegan, a Republican, wrote in a since-deleted Facebook post.

Rush cheered when the guy who went on to win election beat a reporter for asking him a budget question (the Republican leadership denounced the attack and the guy later apologized). Wasn't viewed as a big deal. It's what should be expected of the fringe. It's the world we live in.

ArgentGale said...

I hope you're right, Andrew. Arresting the rioters and credible threats should definitely be in the cards and I don't think the public is going to feel sorry for them. The Secretary of Education getting threats is definitely unusual, too, yet I'm not surprised. I've seen a LOT of hate aimed towards her and there were reports of white powder being sent to Karen Handel's house during the special election, too. No one was hurt, thankfully. I hope you're right about the celebrities settling down, too, but somehow I think that this is just going to fuel their egos, especially if one does end up getting killed.

Critch said...

Well, liberal heads will be exploding again, SCOTUS upheld Trump's travel ban and they will hear the full case in the fall...

tryanmax said...

I've seen several times where they tried to block her from speaking or tried to chase her back to her car afterwards.

I've seen that, too. Utterly appalling! Imagine if the other party were in charge. It would fill the airwaves.

tryanmax said...

…crazy talk on the left side is mostly from celebs and professors…

The former of which have national platforms, and the latter of which have a platform to impressionable minds. Crazy talk on the right is mostly from Midwestern blue collar folks who wouldn't be a blip on the radar if the left-side media weren't so eager for examples of how "unhinged" conservatives are.

BevfromNYC said...

See, I told you this would happen. People used to be able to indiscreetly blurt out stupid things in private amongst friends in the room amd get away with it. The people in room may have thought a little less of you, but there was no permanent record. Like when my brother at 7 yrs old in Dallas on the day JFK was shot in his 2nd grade class - "Why is everyone so upset about Kennedy being shot. My parents hated him!". Other than a family story, there is no permanent record and no harm done except for a few pearl clutchers in the moment.

What we now have the ability to indiscreetly blurt out our endless word "farts" (pardon my verbiage) to our "friends" in the global social E-verse for all the world to see within minutes and permanently...including politicians and celebrities who think there will be no consequences to making literally incendiary "Burn the Traitors" type of statements and "jokes" about "assassinate the president...please!" and the like.

All that being said, anyone who harms/tries to harm or destroy property, people or animals in the act of "political" demonstrations should be arrested on the spot. The tricky part is the very thin line criminalizing "incitement". Do we really want to go the way of the EU, UK, and Canada and start arresing people for harsh words? It's a very slippery slope.

Anywho...NEWSBREAK...the SCOTUS vote to reinstate the travel ban for 90 days and taking up this issue for Fall arguments was passed 9-0. So, no one can blame Gorsuch for this. I retract my previous incendiary indictment of anticipated liberal twitter-accusations and apologize if anyone took offense.

Anthony said...

Tryanmax,

I don't claim to know their backgrounds, but Rush, Drudge, Beck and Alex Jones all boast millions of followers.

I agree college professors are the ones doing the most damage due to who their audience is That and the fact they are part of institutions which take public money makes reform realistic.

Celebs on the other hand don't have too much to worry about unless they put a lot of daylight between themselves and their fans (Dixie Chicks being exhibit A) or get a lot of work from controversy adverse institutions (Kathy Griffin). The Robert De Niros and Snoop Doggs of the world don't really have leashes for anyone to grab.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, A couple points.

First, finding a couple conservatives who have done something similar in no way addresses the main point. There have always been nuts. The issue is the widespread nature of these nuts and the tacit encouragement from the top.

Secondly, Drudge, Rush and Beck have never crossed any of these lines that leftists are now routinely crossing. Few have, right or left, until now. Even in the Micheal Moore hate-filled anti-Bush years, there were only a handful of examples of people calling for Bush to be assassinated and no one with a public platform did that. This is a massive leap forward in terms of the depravity level.

The worry that I am seeing celebrities get now is rather ironic. They are starting to get death threats for saying these things. Basically, the gander is catching up to the goose. That's where we are headed next... which is not a good thing.

AndrewPrice said...

Daniel, Honestly, I don't think this will resolve well.

First, I doubt they will prosecute these people to make them stop. That will instead lead to calls for vast, overbearing laws that let the left punish free speech, but won't actually work against these people.

Secondly, I suspect we're seeing the beginning of tit for tat death threat-ing. As a solution, that may slow things down, but it's a horrible solution.

So we'll see, but I don't think this will end well. The problem is the left won't stop until the right makes them stop and by that point you a new normal of mutually assured destruction.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, That's the problem. The solution is to arrest and punish people who make death threats. Pure and simple. But that's not how human operate. They won't want to be bothered prosecuting those people and will instead call for more laws to solve the problem. In the meantime, it will become a game played by the reckless who don't realize that the crazies are taking them seriously.

tryanmax said...

Anthony, I'm not sure what you mean to suggest by bringing up Rush, Drudge, Beck and Jones. I've listened to Rush and Beck for years and have never heard anything out of either that even approaches what's currently coming out of the left. I can't speak to Drudge except that his name never comes up when the topic is incitement. I know Jones is wont to issue "meet me out back" type invites, so maybe that's something.

Anyway, my only point is that there are dramatic differences both in the type of rhetoric coming out of the various factions and the ways said rhetoric is portrayed. False equivalence ("Oh dear, we're just as bad.") is the trap the right falls into again and again.

ArgentGale said...

Nothing I can really add to that, Andrew, except how depressing and infuriating that it is that it's come to this. Things really have hit a violent, cult-like level with these nutbags and I'm not seeing much will to bring things under control either from anyone.

Anthony said...

Andrew,

I agree its at a new level. My point is this is a pattern that began during Bush II and has steadily gotten worse. I agree things are worse than ever now because the left is so violent.

Tell people that your political opponent is a secret agent of an enemy power, that he is secretly selling drugs to kill a community, planning to enslave or kill them, or running a child pornography ring out of a pizzaria, people who take you seriously (most won't), will do something violent because those are horrible things.

Celebs calling for death of a president is more common now than ever before, but like I've pointed out before, Nugent promised to murder Obama and Trump embraced him and once he won, invited him to the White House. The establishment at the time denounced Nugent, but that didn't meant much in the medium term.

I agree people killing these some of these crazy talking celebs is the next logical step in the pattern but I don't think that it will lead to a de-escalation (quite the opposite).

PS - Don't tell me you forgot infamous 2006 Bush assassination movie 'Death of a President'. Nobody watched it, but it got quite a bit of coverage in its day.

AndrewPrice said...

Daniel, The thing is...

The human race has always had its sick elements. There has always been a segment of the population that is ruled by emotion (mainly bad) and superstition rather than intelligence. These people are spiteful, hateful, xenophobic, jealous little monsters with little "humanity" in them.

As a general rule, these people have been kept in ghettos and backwaters and prisons. Some have managed to live in polite society, but usually blow it badly at some point. In the past, no one paid them much attention because they are worthless and they are directionless. They are drifters through life causing troubling to everyone they touch, but lacking the ability or drive to touch very many people.

But with the internet and the advent of talk radio, these people have found a place where they can insert themselves and feel important. They are internet trolls. They are people who fight nasty battles on talk radio over politics or sports. They have made themselves into armchair Napoleons debunking the world that eludes them and trying to make it burn.

For the most part, they are still just basement dwelling losers jerking themselves off into thinking they have f*cked with better people. Unfortunately, our media is increasingly using these people to shock audiences into paying attention -- and some see them as a natural market now (like talk radio). The end result is that their sick views are being given a credibility they don't deserve, which encourages them to get worse.

Every time Johnny Depp jokes about killing Trump, a thousand of these *ssholes feel vindicated and they try that much harder. That's really the problem.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, Nope, I do remember that. Ug.

I agree with you. I think this started under Bush II. The election laid the groundwork for an unprecedented level of disrespect and then Iraq brought out genuine hate and people pushing the boundaries of acceptable speech.

Under Obama, I think you had something similar on the far right fringe, but otherwise things were a good deal more clam. The left, however, looked at the GOP stopping Obama's agenda (ignoring the lack of an agenda) and combined it with what their bloggers told them about the right-fringe and they decided that all bets were off.

Now with even the "legitimate left" throwing a tantrum, these more fringey types have gone nuts and think they can do anything.

So I agree with you that it started under Bush II. Not sure where it will end though.

Anthony said...

Tryanmax,

None of those guys have called for assassination but all have been happy to spread crazy talk when it suited their purposes. Crazy talk sometimes makes crazy people do crazy things.

*Shrugs* There's nothing really to be done about it. Freedom of speech is a fundamental right and they aren't really responsible for violence committed by others.

A nutjob on edge enough to kill because of talk would have killed someone eventually anyway.

The unlovely truth is that people lie, exaggerate and slander all the time. The system getting involved for anything but direct threats or calls for murder would be a cure worse than the disease so the best thing is to let things continue as they are.

We can all act shocked when someone is killed, observe a brief period of solemnity then go back to business as usual.

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