Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Second Presidential Debate Thread!!


Round Two tonight! Will Obama come out swinging? I would think so. Does he know how? I kind of doubt it. Look for a nasty, nasty affair tonight. One of the theories about Biden's last performance was that he acted went full-jackass intentionally in the hopes of making Obama look better when Obama tries to go half-assed tonight. No, I'm not kidding.

So what do you think will happen tonight? Also, feel free to treat this like an open thread until the event itself.

OT: If anyone hasn't reviewed my books yet, I could really use the help! Even just a few words would help. Thanks! LINK.

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LL said...

I think that Obama will come off as petty, vindictive, "a little bitch", and as a man who relies on calling Romney a liar without the slightest shred of proof to back it up. And rely on Romney to call him on it the way he did with the 'outsourcing to China earns you a tax break' comment.

Joel Farnham said...

I don't think Candy Crowley is competent enough to be able to control this debate. Just a feeling.

Anthony said...

Muriel 2 is on its way. In January Cuba is scrapping its exit visa (citizens need permission to leave the country) though it is still controls the travel of 'sensitive' professions such as doctors (who with good reason would want to live in the US).

Cuba explained that they are doing it out of love for the dispora (probably the funniest joke I'll hear all week).

The timing of this probably has a lot to do with the weakness of the American economy (the last time Cuba staged a mass exodus was under Carter) and perhaps something to do with the state of Cuba. The exporting of the opposition will certainly make life easier for the Castros.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/cuba-scraps-exit-visa_n_1969188.html

BevfromNYC said...

So, they think that because SectHillary fell on the sword about Benghazi (while high tailing it to Peru, btw, so no one would have to face the US press corp...I know...who am I kidding?) that the case is closed and that the Pres is free and clear. Uh, no. Now he needs to explain the lies and misdirection on the CAUSE of the attacks. I think this should be Question #1 for tonight's debate AND for next week's too.

Patti said...

barry's gonna come out with his best clint impersonation, but he'll still be the empty chair, no matter how much he squints and growls.

Individualist said...

What irks me is the pretense that these "town hall" debates are people asking the candidates questions from "independent" folks.

The questions are preselected based on a liberal play book and I would not be surprised if half of them were written by Obama Campaign staffers. And even if they weren't and are on the up and up why should I give special credence to the 5% that has not yet thought through the issues enough to have made up their mind.

Unfortunately we in the GOP need to refuse this format unless it is changed. One possible method that each party gets its own moderator that the candidates can select. The questions are split evenly between the two moderators who may choose what they wish. But that would mean the GOP actually getting a word in edgewise so...

tryanmax said...

I just found out there are some rule changes for tonight's debate. They are as follows:

1. No hitting below the belt.

2. Special rule for Democratic candidates: Headbands may be considered as belts.

3. Special rule for Republican candidates: No belts allowed.

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Indie, the only good thing about tonight's format is that I can make fun of the weirdos they select from the audience.

T-Rav said...

Bev, it's at least possible that Hillary did this so she'd be the one to come out smelling like roses ("Look at me! I'm taking responsibility!") and get more room to manuever for 2016. I'm kind of suspicious that she'd make a run, but it's worth keeping in mind.

tryanmax said...

Since this is an open thread, I'll mention that American Thinker has a blog post up titled "7 More Simple Things Mitt Should Say...but only if he wants to win." Simply put, it lays shame on the "Thinker" part of the blog's name.

AndrewPrice said...

OT: If anyone hasn't reviewed my books yet, I could certainly use the help!! Even just a couple words would help!

LINK

rlaWTX said...

I'm gonna miss most of it again tonight - GRRR. (mantra "graduating in May; graduating in May")

I'm with Indi about "town-hall" "debates"

tryanmax's rules look about right...

T-Rav: a fb friend postulated something similar this morning - "I wondered why a politician as ambitious as Hillary would jump on a live grenade for this president the way she did. I assumed the administration must have some dirt on her but I think I may have figured it out. What do you think the media would do to Hillary if she outed their messiah? She would have no chance of earning her party's nomination in 2016 if the Media turned on her. However if she takes this bullet she becomes a hero, a martyr, if you will and the media will insulate her in 2016. This is a political risk for sure but I am positive that she is falling on the sword so that she will not be blamed by the left for sinking the president. This move may not save President Obama but it gives Hillary the best chance to be the democratic choice in the future. Just my new opinion."

StanH said...

Look for the establishment to coalesce around Barry, this includes Candy Crowley. No matter what happens the liberal press will declare Barry the winner. The problem for the press is, the electorate has existed in Barry’s world and found it terribly wanting. So, if in reality Romney pulls a draw, he wins big.

Note: Candy Crowley has taken so much flak for being a liberal hack, which she is, look for her to possibly take to Barry a bit, that in my mind is the X-factor. Barry doesn’t do off the cuff well, this could make him look like the stuttering, stammering fool that he is…we’ll see.

Individualist said...

tyranmax

Exactly

Why exactly does the RNC put up with this crap...

Moderators who publicly announce our ticket is Dead, moderators who are personal freinds of the President.

Every moderator from some liberal haven network that does not have one conservative working for them....

It is nonsense! There are people from FOX that could be considered. Gretta Van Sustran.

Individualist said...

Honestly the best Town Hall Debate format would be run by Greg Gutfeld.

Instead of the moderator asking follow up questions we'd get follow up criticisms from Angry Cat and Puppy falling into the wading pool...

It would be great!

rlaWTX said...

Indi: awesome Moderator suggestion!

Individualist said...

rlaWTX

I think I beleived the "falling on the sword" to be taken seriously when they did it in ancient fuedal Japan......

In modern day America it seems to mean getting a lecture circuit to sell books.....

AndrewPrice said...

LL, I agree. I think he'll come across as petty, snippy and angry. I think he will spend his time calling Romney a liar (without using the word) and attacking him over the 47%/Bain things. I don't expect to hear a reason to vote for him.

Tennessee Jed said...

saw Pat Caddell's article about Romney pincer movement. What caught my eye was a great line Ryan might have used the other night. "Martha, if you aren't going to control the V.P. from interrupting me, why do you go over and sit next to him and I'll debate both of you together." Maybe Romney could use something similar if Crowley gets too obvious.

Still, the A.P. has a storyline about how this debate could tilt the election either way. As such, if the president improves even a little, the spin to call this a grand slam game changer will be ferocious. Romney has to be ready to quickly knock down any Obama lies, stay out of the weeds and remind people the election is a referendum on a president who has largely failed to do what he promised and left us much worse off than we were. It's O.K. to fire a performer who fails that miserably.

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, That will be interesting. I wonder how big the exodus will ultimately be?

tryanmax said...

Indie, not to mention that Candy Crowley is murder on the eyes! Greta doesn't quite stack up against the FOX info-babes, but at least she looks nice.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I think the problem with Hillary taking the blame is that she waited too long for it to be effective. It feels political at the moment.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I think I saw those rules somewhere.


Do you have a link to the American Thinker bit?

AndrewPrice said...

Indi and rlaWTX, I don't like the townhall debates either. They strike me as fake, like reality TV fake.

Sorry you're going to miss tonight's debate. But graduating is important. :)

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I think Hillary ends up looking good. She looks loyal by taking the blame, but she waited long enough to make it look like she's not really to blame. In the end, I think none of this will stick to her, but it will make her people more happy with her.

Individualist said...

How about bill Bennett...

How could liberals complain about him. He is teh epitomy of "fairness" and "civility" in discussions

Man I am really irked all these moderators are partisan hacks

AndrewPrice said...

Stan, I suspect Crowley will basically be nasty to both. I guess we'll see how biased she ends up. She couldn't be worse that the last one.

AndrewPrice said...

Jed, Unless Romney blows him away, I think the MSM spin will be that Obama won and re-established himself as the front runner. And they'll produce D+20 polls to prove it.

tryanmax said...

How rude of me. American Thinker article

T-Rav said...

rla, you'll be with us in spirit, though, right? :-)

The thing of it is, though that may very well be Hillary's reasoning, I don't know what the chances are that it'll play out like she hopes. The Republicans are still going to take this to Obama and pin it all on him, which would seem to undercut the value of her "sacrifice." Come to that, she's left it kind of vague what she's taking responsibility for. For botching the intelligence, or for all the lying? Plus, I don't know how much it will matter down the road.

Then again, maybe Hillary's angling for something else. Who knows.

tryanmax said...

Spirits? Good idea!

Joel Farnham said...

Should Obama lose tonight, look to Obama and cronies blaming Hillary on the loss. Again, just a feeling.

Joel Farnham said...

BTW, what are the drinking rules tonight?

T-Rav said...

Joel, the drinking rules are forthcoming. Stay tuned.

You should be stocking up, though.

Joel Farnham said...

tryanmax,

Sometimes I think the editors at American Thinker don't actually read the articles submitted.

Joel Farnham said...

tryanmax,

Did you happen to read that author's previous submission? I am glad Romney ignored his advice.

BevfromNYC said...

T-Rav - One rule: Anytime Obama interrupts Romney - DRINK!!

Biden interrupted Ryan 87 times. Obama's can do better than that!

rlaWTX said...

Instead of Papa Joe's guffaws, count up TOTUS' smirks...

Yes, I will join you in spirit, if not in spirits.
I'll be home about in time for the closing arguments.

HilShil has spent enough time married to Slick Willy that I am sure she is angling for anything that pays off on that investment...

Joel Farnham said...

Oh, NO!

Obama just scored the endorsement of a lifetime!

Honey Boo Boo!

Romney is stunned and unavailable for comment.

/sarcasm off

AndrewPrice said...

Is it just me or does the MSM seem to be putting a lot of pressure on Obama to win tonight? I'm see a lot of articles about the expectations for him having gone way up and how he's all prepared and ready to really shine. Bad move, folks.

tryanmax said...

Hmm, good point Andrew. I wasn't hearing it as pressure, more like wishful thinking, but it certainly turns into pressure. On the other hand, all of the "comeback kid" stories are already written, so unless Obama wets himself onstage, the media is going to run with them regardless.

Also, I expect Romney to be charming and personable vs. a stiff and awkward Obama, but for the media to somehow witness the polar opposite.

Tennessee Jed said...

The Candy Crowley: This is all about Me Rule has just been agreed to. What a shame. I hate the thought of this liberal pig getting to help B.O.

T-Rav said...

Joel, I would have been upset if Honey Boo Boo had endorsed Romney. Having her endorse Obama is a positive good for our side.

T-Rav said...

Bev, fortunately that was not on the list last time, or we would all be brain-dead right now. As a precaution, I'm leaving that off the list.

What you DO drink on, however:

-"47 percent"
-Abortion/birth control/"War on Women"
-Any mention of Nicki Minaj and/or Mariah Carey
-Whenever Look-At-Me Crowley decides to reword someone's question
-Citing of high-speed rail
-And finally, use of the phrase "Let me be clear."

As always, have the paramedics on speed dial.

Koshcat said...

So Hillary is taking the blame? For what? For being available for the 2AM phone call that Obama didn't get? For having the air of more (slightly) competence and thus should be the person to call? For acquiescing to our enemies? For aging 20 years in just 3? For those awful dance pictures?

Koshcat said...

Not surprised about the Honey Boo Boo endorsement. After watching that wretched show about this wretched family, I have concluded that this is Obama's base. I think this might actually be a win for Romney.

Koshcat said...

How about a drinking game where you drink for every one of Obama's uhhh "thoughtful" uhmm pauses?

Individualist said...

Joel

reading the Newsbuster article what was done to Honey Boo Boo was sad.

Kimmel asks her if she knows who Romeny is and she says no. He asks her who the President is and she says Obama.

He then tells her that Romeny is the guy who wanted Snooki's endorsemetn over hers (don't know where he get that from cause it does not sound like Romeny to justify that question with and answer but OK).

Then he asks her who she likes and she says Obama.

So evidently liberals like Kimmel can't even poll 7 year olds with out trying to fudge the results in their favor.

Pathetic!

Anthony said...

I don't think Hillary taking the blame matters. Prior to Benghazi the case against Obama's foreign policy was fairly abstract (there were problems, but not the sorts of problems that most people noticed or cared about) but after the murder of the ambassador...

rlaWTX said...

Indi: "what was done to Honey Boo Boo was sad"
I thought you were going to mention the exploitation of this odd child by her bizarre family, but , yeah, what Kimmel did was sad too.

BevfromNYC said...

Romney hit the 50% mark in a new Gallup poll
Romney 50%
Obama 46%
This may be high, so tomorrow when it reversed tomorrow, Obama can claim a victory. Again, I am skeptomistic.

Oh, and T-Rav
I plan to flout your stinkin' rules. **hiccup**

T-Rav said...

"so tomorrow when it reversed tomorrow..."

Bev, it sounds like you've already been flouting my rules.

tryanmax said...

Bev, just because you drink from a flute glass does not make you a floutist! LOL!

BevfromNYC said...

Hey, I like the word "tomorrow". It was my favorite as a child. ;)

I like that! Floutist Noun 1. a person who flouts expertly; 2. a person who drink from a fluted glass; 3. a player of the flute;

rlaWTX said...

Bev, you'll think about it tomorrow... at... Tara?

tryanmax said...

Bev, I hate to be nitpicky (no I don't) but one who plays the flute is a flautist. (Look at me, undermining my own puns.)But you can add "floutist" to the Commentarama-nary with the first two definitions. As in, when it comes to obeying the Constitution, our president is an expert floutist.

Individualist said...

Tyranmax

Is Obama a

"Flighty Floutist"

and if so do we refer to him as a

Flight Flouter

Individualist said...

Koshkat

what Irony!

When hillary was talking about the 2 am call, little did she realize she'd be answering the phone even if Obama was elected President.

T-Rav said...

The flute is a terrible musical instrument, and those who play it just to annoy me shall be classified as "double floutists." And then beaten.

Joel Farnham said...

I would like to add an addendum to the drinking rules,

If Obama gets a "boxers or briefs" question, half the bottle must be drunk. If Obama answers it, the other half of the bottle must be drunk.

Any one oppose it?

Joel Farnham said...

Jed,

I think Candy Cane has been given the go-ahead to dominate the questions.

Breitbart Link

tryanmax said...

This time I am prepared. Not exactly a drinking rule, but every time one of the candidates launches a zinger, I will eat a Hostess® Zinger.®

AndrewPrice said...

Ok, now I'm jealous. Zingers... yum. :)

tryanmax said...

It's only for the debates. Otherwise I am still on my diet.

AndrewPrice said...

Me too, though I have strongly considered a Debate Pizza.

tryanmax said...

REMINDER: The debate starts an hour earlier than the last two.

Debate Streams

http://www.youtube.com/politics

http://www.hulu.com/live

tryanmax said...

Actually, I may be wrong about the time. I'm seeing news reports with varying times, so I am now confused.

Diabetes said...

tryanmax, please allow me to introduce myself....

tryanmax said...

Pleased to meet you, though I must confess, I guessed wrong on the name.

AndrewPrice said...

My TV says 9:00 EST / 7:00 MST.

Also, my TV says the Diabetes and Alcoholism Danger is high for this debate.

BevfromNYC said...

It starts at 9pm in NY. I mean, it IS at Hofstra. Lots of people complaining that they've shut everything down.

T-Rav said...

You guys eat junk food if you want. Me, my drinks will be in the form of apple cider from my fridge. Another reminder that autumn in Missouri is awesome.

tryanmax said...

Apple cider is an excellent rum delivery system.

T-Rav said...

LEAKED: The Secret Obama Debate Playbook

Killer plan here.

Intro: Shout-out of support to Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey
Thanks to Madonna, but no thanks.
First 20 Minutes: Warn women they will be forced
to have back-alley abortions if Romney wins
Next Half Hour: Mention how much Romney hates the 47 percent, women, and dogs, in that order

If Successful: Thump chest, proclaim something about "not calling my bluff," etc.

If Unsuccessful: Panic. Foam at the mouth, throw everything up to and including the kitchen sink at Romney, moderator, audience, etc.

End with something wonderful-sounding about America.

Individualist said...

T-Rav

Regarding the Flute I generally agree with you with the exception Jethro Tull

AndrewPrice said...

By the way, my ballot came in the mail today. I wonder who I'll be voting for? ;)

Individualist said...

Candy Cane thinks she should correct a candidate if he answers about oranges and the question was about apples saying "would you like to try again" Here is an example how it might go for you Commentarama readers.

Preselected Obama Campaign Staffer er Undecided Voter: President Obama do you love apples and similarly Mitt why do you hate apple groowers?

Barack Obama: Well er uh ... Oranges are a great fruit and uh I love Oranges but if someone has more than 10 Oranges I think its uh only fair that I uh take five of these Oragnes and give it to those who really need them.

Candy Cane: Great Job Mr. President

Mitt Romney: I like apples especially Red Delicious apples that are grown right here in America in Washington State and I want more apple growing so that Americans can have jobs.

Candy Cane: Well, Mr. Romney, you were asked about Apples and you only talked about one kind of apples. To use a well known metaphor its as if you were asked a question about apples and you decided to talk about oranges instead. Would you like to try your answer again?

Mitt Romney: Mz. Crowley do you think we could talk about irony instead.

T-Rav said...

Voting through the mail is so weird. Good ol' voting booth for me.

Patti said...

my cheetos have sufficiently lulled me into a carb fog. i.am.ready.

AndrewPrice said...

I love voting through the mail. It's easy and you can get it done early.

AndrewPrice said...

Patti, Let's hope Obama is in a dumbass fog. ;)

BevfromNYC said...

Candy Cane: Um, Mr. Obama, didn't you mean to add that Romney hates old people? Mr. Romney you DO hate old people, DON'T you?

Town Hall Questioner said...

As an undecided voter, Mr. Romney, I have to ask: Why do you want to oppress women and poor people?

BevfromNYC said...

T-Rav - I'm with you. I like to go and stand in line. It makes me feel American. And I make up my mind while I am in the voting booth, like every good American.

Andrew - what happens if you find out Romney really IS a criminal who hates women, animals, and old people?

AndrewPrice said...

CNN just said that Obama ate a big meal (steak and potatoes). It will be interesting to see how that works for him. I never ate before court because it diverted the blood from your brain and made you tired and lethargic.

T-Rav said...

I really wish I didn't get so nervous before these debates. But I keep seeing a hundred ways this could go bad, and then....ugh. I'll be on pins and needles until this is over. Actually, I'll probably be on pins and needles until November 7th.

Joel Farnham said...

Oh, my. Candy Cane has a more male voice than Obama.

tryanmax said...

I was thinking of requesting my ballot via vote.obama.com just to throw their internals.

T-Rav said...

I was on our Academic Team (Quiz Bowl) in high school, and I never liked to eat a lot before a match started. My stomach would start hurting and distract me. I got lethargic by the end regardless, but that's what prolonged concentration of thought does to you.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I don't know very many lawyers who eat before a trial or an appellate argument. There are some, but most wait until afterwards for that very reason.

BevfromNYC said...

I'm watching CSPAN...it's absolutely silent. Maybe they haven't put on the sound yet.

T-Rav said...

Great, Crowley pre-selected the questions. This should be fair.

tryanmax said...

Not that it compares, but when I was acting, I'd never eat before a show b/c it slows the body down as well as the mind.

AndrewPrice said...

And we're off!

tryanmax said...

Of course, Obama is acting tonight and not debating, so either way...

tryanmax said...

Oh, the NY area. That'll be unbiased.

T-Rav said...

Is it wrong of me to say that Candy looks like a lot of welfare moms I knew growing up?

T-Rav said...

Oh, boy. Speaking of stomachaches, here comes one now!

AndrewPrice said...

Romney has an old guy walk.

BevfromNYC said...

She just sneered when she said "Governor Mitt Romney".

T-Rav said...

Sorry, kid. You're screwed.

AndrewPrice said...

"Jeremy, There's nothing wrong with the economy, they tell you that because you're hopeless. Put down the bong and get your grades up."

T-Rav said...

Bev, at least she didn't spit when she said it.

tryanmax said...

Recognize or Redneckognize? Sorry, that was Honey Boo Boo in my ear.

tryanmax said...

Obama: your parents and professors are wrong. The economy is fine. Just ask me.

AndrewPrice said...

Obama is using "the voice" -- like he's reading from a teleprompter. This is going to get wierd if he keeps it up.

T-Rav said...

(cough cough) Bull@#$%! (cough cough)

BevfromNYC said...

Umm, Mr. President, GM DID go bankrupt...

tryanmax said...

Obama's debate team: Romney had lists last time. Be sure to use lists. That's the ticket! *old timey laugh*

T-Rav said...

God, he's doing that stupid "emphasis whisper" he does during the SOTU addresses. He's not going to do this the whole time, is he?

T-Rav said...

Romly?

tryanmax said...

Yes, because defense is dragging the economy down. The entitlements are all just fine.

Joel Farnham said...

Candy it is Romney, not Romley.

T-Rav said...

This debate is going to get down in the mud. I'm going to be banging my head on the keyboard shortly.

BevfromNYC said...

Thanks, RomLey, YES, GM WENT bankrupt!

tryanmax said...

I've never heard the phrase "take bankrupt" before.

AndrewPrice said...

ZAP on bankruptcy in Detroit

T-Rav said...

Wow. He's doubling down on this. I honestly didn't think he'd go there so fast.

tryanmax said...

Like Soylindra plays by different rules? I get it now.

Kit said...

Obama is doing better this time, I'll give him that.

As Larry Sabato said, he is awake.

AndrewPrice said...

Yawn. The class warfare garbage is tired.

tryanmax said...

Andrew, does that count as a Zinger®.

BevfromNYC said...

Like the Delphi workers who got screwed during the GM bankruptcy?

AndrewPrice said...

Good for Romney, don't let Obama get away with lies.

tryanmax said...

Is every questioner going to sound like Woody Allen?

T-Rav said...

Dang. Maybe that was a Romney plant.

T-Rav said...

Oh, and also, LIE.

Individualist said...

In Brazil maybe

AndrewPrice said...

We're getting magic cars in a decade?

T-Rav said...

*That we're not using because of your bureaucracy.

BevfromNYC said...

I LOVE magic cars!! I'm voting for Obama!

tryanmax said...

No, just magic legislation. You can make cars more efficient just by passing a law. It's always worked before.

Unemployed Coal Miners said...

Coal production is up? News to us.

BevfromNYC said...

Sooo, then why are we investing in Brazil?

Individualist said...

I have invested in Clean
Energy

they all went bankrupt but... don't sweat the details

tryanmax said...

We build energy sources? Or do we harness them? I'm being nitpicky.

T-Rav said...

Zing!

tryanmax said...

*nom*

T-Rav said...

In Obama's defense, those birds contained the cure for cancer.

AndrewPrice said...

Romney had a heck of a photo op with coal miners in Ohio the other day.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, Magic cars are cool!

Individualist said...

Great answer with specifics

tryanmax said...

Mr. President, can I help you?

BevfromNYC said...

I'm bummed, Obama hasn't interrupted him once.

Obama/Biden 2012 said...

A magic car in every garage and chicken-flavored arugula in every pot!

Individualist said...

Public lands in Brazil right

AndrewPrice said...

Obama keeps calling Romney a liar, but he's lying.

Joel Farnham said...

Oh, Candy, there you go again. Helping Obama when Romney zings Obama.

BevfromNYC said...

Andrew - Do you think the magic car will come with an Obama-phone??

T-Rav said...

Tried, and failed.

BevfromNYC said...

Be "consistent"??? He is the least consistent person on the planet.

tryanmax said...

Aside: I just discovered a photo of Candy Crowley before she sat through makeup: LINK

tryanmax said...

WOW!!!

T-Rav said...

THROWDOWN!

BevfromNYC said...

Oooh, fight, fight!!!

tryanmax said...

There's another problem, too much public land.

BevfromNYC said...

Tryanmax - That' so mean!! But funny.

tryanmax said...

ZING!

T-Rav said...

Obama has truly been possessed by Joe Biden. #ScariestThoughtsEver

Joel Farnham said...

This is cool.

AndrewPrice said...

"the proof is the price at the pump."

Yep.

tryanmax said...

I'm going to go into sugar shock.

BevfromNYC said...

Oooh, Romney's taking over the stage!

Patti said...

romney is strafing barry's limp responses!

Kit said...

Any moment I expect the cops come in to separate them to the tune of "Whatya gonna do? Whatya gonna do when they come for you? Bad Boys! Bad Boys!"

T-Rav said...

This is why I hate town halls.

Patti said...

BUSH!

tryanmax said...

Candy Crowley: I'm going to run this debate.

Mitt Romney: Like hell you are.

T-Rav said...

So, gas prices being low is a BAD thing?

AndrewPrice said...

Wow, Obama's an ass.

Individualist said...

The economy is sick so gas prices fall down

uh... I learned economics from sesame street

Jen said...

Mitt, I've got some boxing gloves in my garage that aren't being used, I'll let you borrow them if you want, unless...you don't care if you hurt your knuckles.

BevfromNYC said...

Romney won the energy round...Obama's rambling.

T-Rav said...

tryanmax: LOL

tryanmax said...

Too bad none of that pipeline connects to an oil source!!!!

tryanmax said...

WTF = Win the Future!

Patti said...

romney dismisses you, candy.

Individualist said...

I am just not going to let you do this another time

T-Rav said...

So, this debate format lasted a grand total of 20 minutes. Not bad.

Joel Farnham said...

Tomorrow, we are going to hear ad nauseum about how Romney interrupted the President.

Patti said...

d'oh!

T-Rav said...

Amateur hour at the Hofstra!!!

Patti said...

joel: i can live with that!

tryanmax said...

Tomorrow's headline: Romney goes Biden!

AndrewPrice said...

He is blowing a hole in Obama's class warfare plan here.

T-Rav said...

Romney's Weapons: Numbers and specifics. Obama's Weapons: Yelling.

Joel Farnham said...

Patti,

The difference here is that Romney interrupts intelligently. Biden only interrupts.

tryanmax said...

Here's the new debate format:

Audience member: asks question

Mitt Romney: provides answer

Barack Obama: claims Romney lied

Candy Crowley: curls up in the corner

T-Rav said...

Shouting starts in 3....2....

BevfromNYC said...

Has Obama said anything yet? He can't get a word in edge-wise. I can live with that.

AndrewPrice said...

Solid answer by Romney.

T-Rav said...

And then you made those tax cuts unsustainable, so thanks.

Joel Farnham said...

I had a feeling Candy Cane wasn't competent.

T-Rav said...

Obama's covering territory Romney already went over, and doing it worse. Like usual.

Patti said...

No longer BUSH. Now it's ROMNEY'S ALLIES!

tryanmax said...

Romney is friends with Harry Reid? Somehow I don't buy it.

T-Rav said...

Again, LIE.

Patti said...

joel: candy was all talk. i've seen tougher women at a 50% after-christmas sale.

tryanmax said...

Tax credits grow the economy? Not jobs? Wow, I am learning so much right now.

tryanmax said...

What's the difference b/w tax cuts and tax RATE cuts?

T-Rav said...

Wait, now cutting taxes for everyone is a bad thing?

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