Thursday, October 11, 2012

Vice Presidential Debate Thread


As we get ready for the Bidenisms to start flying fast and furious, I'm turning the floor over to you, gentle viewer, to lend Slow Joe a hand! Tell us some of the Bidenism you hope to hear tonight! I hear he wants to be very aggressive.

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tryanmax said...

For my money, nothing beats the time Joe invited paraplegic MO State Sen. Chuck Graham to, "Stand up, Chuck!"

Also, someone should give Joe the number to this website so he can chime in, too.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, Those are indeed excellent. I'm hoping Biden goes all in on how you need to speak Indian to visit a 7-11 again.

By the way, we've outlined some Bidenisms in the past, but by no means all of them. Click on "Bidenism" in the index on the right. (LINK)

LL said...

Since I consider Joe (Slow Joe) Biden a clown and simply don't take him serious as a credible politician - or as a man, I will have to abstain from a prediction. He's an oily politician and has alternatively been the "Jobs Czar", the "Summer of Recovery Czar" - three years running, and "The disarm Poland and Czechoslovakia for the sake of the Russians Czar, etc.

What do we pay him to do?

Do we REALLY want Joe Biden one heart beat from the presidency. There has been a joke (not laughing) around the Beltway for the past four years that Biden has been Obama's life insurance policy. Nobody would want to see Biden as president because, difficult as it would seem to be possible, he'd be worse and more foolish than even Barack Obama has been.

Joel Farnham said...

I think that Joe Biden was picked because he is so stupid. It is to keep the nutcases on the left from shooting Obama. See, if they shot him, Biden would be president. That stops them. I know it is a conspiracy theory, but ....

Anthony said...

Biden regularly trips over his tongue, but objectively, he was a good VP pick for Obama. Biden was a long-timer who knew everyone in the Senate and he had a lot of foreign policy experience (certainly more than Obama).

Last but not least, I'm sure the fact Biden is a guy who seems comfortable dealing with the working class didn't escape the somewhat aloof Obama's attention.

tryanmax said...

I remember a Slate article from '09 called "Introducing Bidenisms" (I checked the date b/c it's still there). Contained within is what I shall call a "Slatism" which asserts "They frequently are self-aware—that is, the vice president knows he is committing a Bidenism as he says it."

Please.

Tennessee Jed said...

first off; thanks for keeping all Larry's stuff in tact. Got a little bit drunk last night, but was able to turn from morose to getting some great laughs at some of his "Hawkisms."

As for tonight, I'd like to get an over under on whether Axelrose (I mean Rod) will have been able to teach Jow how to well up a single tear, and let it dribble down his cheek while he bites his lip and says "these are real Americans you are talking about starving to death, congressman."

Separately, how may pundits will claim Biden did "surprisingly well" and may have turned things back towards the Democrats?

Individualist said...

I read an article on BH about this debate maderator from ABC. Evidently she is supposed to be a foreign policy expert. Chosen becuase foreign policy is supposed to be Biden's stong suit or at least the Dems think so.....

So I suggest they talk Libya all night long...

It seems she also moderated other debates where she was criticized for asking ridiculous quetions for her own self seriving interests to make her "look" good. I guess her and Biden will get along.

She asks a ridiculous quetion, he gives a ridiculous answer... it's all good!

BevfromNYC said...

Indi - and ABC refuses to answer questions about the relationship the Obamas have/had with Martha Raddatz. Obama attended her wedding and they went to Harvard together and served on Harvard Law Review together...

I expect questions to go:
To Biden - What's your favorite number?
To Ryan - What's your stand on abortion and killing old people by taking away their Medicare?

T-Rav said...

I weirdly made myself feel better last night by watching Joss Whedon's "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" on YouTube. Don't ask why.

As for the debate, I hope they ask Biden why he thinks trains are awesome. The closing statements should wrap up sometime around 11:30.

Individualist said...

Bev

slight correction:
To Ryan - What's your stand on abortion and why are you killing old people by taking away their Medicare?

I read aobut the wedding business but the debate moderator is a personal friend of Obama - Really?

If I were Ryan I would open my remarks stating how nice it is for her to be a lifelong friend of the President.....

rlaWTX said...

I will be home by 8:15 or so - I only scheduled one client for this evening on purpose! Looking forward to Joe's schoolin' tonight...


[I just read about Lawhawk - still stunned]

AndrewPrice said...

Anthony, I agree. Biden was a great pick for Obama because he seemed like a long-time insider who brought stability and brought a direct connection to the Senate. Also, he's a fool who helped to make Obama look better by comparison.

I personally would have dumped him this time, but Obama clearly didn't see the benefits of that.

AndrewPrice said...

Jed, You're welcome. It seemed like the right thing to do. And by moving over here, it was easy to leave his stuff up and on the front page. So I brought over all of his stuff from the new site and I'm going to leave the main site as it is.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I've seen that article. They were actually tracking Bidenism each week as they went, and some of them were pretty good.

T-Rav said...

Hmmm, potential questions.

For Ryan: Obviously there are some differences between the economic plans you and Romney have laid out. How do you plan on reconciling those?

For Biden: Who was responsible for skewing today's jobless report?

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, LOL! I would not doubt that is exactly how the questioning will go! It's going to be two on one today for sure.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, It will be more like:

Ryan: "Mr. Ryan, you and Mr. Romney clearly do not see eye to eye, how can the American public be assured that you two will be able to work as a team when it's clearly that you are both so far apart, with you wanting to kill older people and steal their medicare and Mr. Romney hoping to force all American women to have abortions? Aren't you to simply unfit to work together?

Biden: "Is President Obama really as dreamy as hundreds of millions of American believe?"

AndrewPrice said...

FYI, I'm going to be in and out today and I need to head to Denver in the afternoon, but I will be back well before the debate.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, you're right. That was how I was thinking the questions should go, not how they will go.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, You can never underestimate how twisted things can become with the "unbiased" MSM.

BevfromNYC said...

Andrew- are ypu secretly working with moderator?? LOL!

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, Me? Nope... I never went to Harvard. ;)

rlaWTX said...

yep, those "unbiased" questions sound about right...

T-Rav said...

I don't know, Andrew...what about those totally non-photoshopped pictures of you at their Law Review meetings?

Individualist said...

T-Rav

No need to ask who has been skewing the jobless reports....

Everybody knows the answer to that

T-Rav said...

According to the administration, Romney and Ryan having been skewing them. WITH THEIR MINDS.

Agent 86 said...

Ah the old evil psychic hypno mind control ray.....

Yep Romney must have acquired it when Dr. No's organization went bankrupt after Bond blew up the island.

Would you beleive that we were called to do the clean up for that one.

rlaWTX said...

Did y'all see the report about some of the jobless numbers excluding California - by accident...?

tryanmax said...

rlaWTX, I did hear about that. Rush was talking about it, but I wasn't able to give full attention. Any chance of filling us in?

Individualist said...

Ryan to Debate Two People Tonight

Individualist said...

tyranmax

the Jobless claims are the lowest ever except they don't have California's numbers added in yet....

Nice Huh!

BevfromNYC said...

Oh, dear Lord, now Obama and his cohorts are blaming Romney/Ryan for keeping that silly, non-issue Benghazi terrorist thing in the press!

STEPHANIE CUTTER: In terms of the politicization of this — you know, we are here at a debate, and I hope we get to talk about the debate — but the entire reason this has become the political topic it is, is because of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. It’s a big part of their stump speech. And it’s reckless and irresponsible what they’re doing.

BROOKE BALDWIN: But, Stephanie, this is national security. As we witnessed this revolution last year, we covered it–

CUTTER: It is absolutely national security–

BALDWIN: –it is absolutely pertinent. People in the American public absolutely have a right to get answers.


T-Rav said...

While we're waiting, I advise taking a look at this article on why we shouldn't expect Ryan to completely destroy Slow Joe. In short, he would have to utterly crush Biden, on a level equal to or probably greater than Romney crushed Obama, for the opinion-making media to admit it. Especially since Biden's starting from a much lower point, reputation-wise, than Obama was. Not as many illusions to be dashed.

It's a good case; my only comeback would be that I would expect elevated viewership for this VP debate, considering what transpired last week. However good Joe may be at ward-heeler demagoguery, he wouldn't sound like a policy expert of Ryan's caliber on his best day. Given Ryan's coolness under fire, and Joe being Joe, I think there will at least be a lot of people seeing his stupidity on full display, and that certainly doesn't hurt us.

T-Rav said...

Bev, I saw that a couple hours ago. There aren't, in all honesty, many times I actually get livid at the Obama Administration. That was one of them.

I still can't believe even someone as mendacious as Stephanie Cutter would stoop to that level.

AndrewPrice said...

I'm back... and larger than life! :)

So now they're picking and choosing what states to include in national numbers? Why am I not more amazed?

rlaWTX said...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/11/bls-fail-jobless-claims-number-doesnt-include-california

rlaWTX said...

Andrew - CA was just overworked and didn't get their #s in on time - poor CA Labor Stats workers!!!! boo-hoo.

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, I must quip... how can a state awash in unemployment be overworked? ;)

Joel Farnham said...

I had heard that one state was excluded from the jobs report, but I didn't know California was the state. Makes sense though. I doubt BLS will change the 7.8% to something that make sense... until after the election.

rlaWTX said...

Andrew, I guess if you're the one counting the unwashed or the unemployed...

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, True. Counting that high would probably be incredibly painful to your mind. It might even give you carpal-tunnel brain and you'd start talking like Rain Man!

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, Save the real number until Romney's in office, then you can blame him for the sudden sharp rise before he took over. :)

rlaWTX said...

Geez, you're ruining ALL their fun "If TOTUS Loses" surprises!

T-Rav said...

Do these guys understand that on one level, they're making our job easier? We don't even have to refute them with the facts anymore, we can just say that the facts they're using are made up, and they can't say otherwise. I'm really curious to know who signed off on delivering an incomplete report like this.

rlaWTX said...

ffffaaaactssss - what are these things of which you speak?

T-Rav said...

rla, here's your link: LINK

I had a suspicion this morning it would be either California, New York, or Illinois. Only a failing Democratic state would need to be left off.

rlaWTX said...

thanks,T-Rav

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, That's the beauty of bureaucracy, these things can sign off on themselves!


rlaWTX, Don't worry, there will be plenty of surprises. The homeless will return, people will realize that gas prices are way up, inflation will magically appear/get noticed, racism will beset the country, millions of people will feel hopeless about not having jobs as the rich get richer, etc. I'm sure there are a ton of articles ready to go about all the horrors that just don't exist as long as President Unicorn is in charge.

rlaWTX said...

I wish I could blindly live in the land of Pres. Unicorn's World of Rainbow Dust...
wait, no I don't! ick.

Individualist said...

"Oh, dear Lord, now Obama and his cohorts are blaming Romney/Ryan for keeping that silly, non-issue Benghazi terrorist thing in the press!"

Bev look on the bright side. They have finally stopped blaming George W Bush for everything!

rlaWTX said...

Indi, that'd be the silver-plated lining?

Joel Farnham said...

Does anyone have a link to the VP debate. I think I found one at cspan, but I am not sure.

AndrewPrice said...

Silver-plated lining! LOL!

T-Rav said...

Joel, FoxNews.com should have a livestream available if you don't have access to TV.

T-Rav said...

Indi, indeed. In fact, I'll bet that in time, they'll even admit that Obama did some things wrong all on his own. Say, around mid-century.

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, You know what? I don't want that either. There are times I think it would be nice to be ignorant of the world and just assume everything is running fine, but that's just not me. I can't be happy that way.

Joel Farnham said...

Thanks T-Rav

BevfromNYC said...

rlaWTX and Andrew - Good point! Good ol' George isnt' the whipping boy.

And, rla - I'm gonna steal that - silver plated lining! PERFECT!! That is exactly what the Obama Admin IS!

tryanmax said...

LOOK OUT! Andrew is larger than life and he's gonna step on you!

Joel, This worked pretty well for me last time: youtube.com/politics

If (when) Romney is elected, suddenly the jobs numbers will be completely realistic and the Democrate meme for the next four years will be that Romney is so bad the economy took a dive on his first day in office. (I wish I could say "lol" but it seems all too likely.)

tryanmax said...

Joel, last time I had good luck with youtube.com/politics and it looks like Hulu is hosting (several versions of) it, too: hulu.com/live

tryanmax said...

If (when) Romney wins, the job numbers will suddenly make sense and the Democrat narrative for the next four years will be that Romney is so terrible that the economy took a dive on his first day in office. (I'd add a "lol" except that it seems all too likely.)

Joel Farnham said...

tryanmax,

I got your message on youtube thingy. Thanks

Are you getting your comments automatically removed?

tryanmax said...

Huh, I tried to share a link to "youtube(dot)com(slash)politics" but blogger ate that comment. Strange seeing as YouTube and Blogger are both Google-owned.

Also, hulu(dot)com(slash)live has several streams of the debate tonight.

tryanmax said...

Joel, I assume the links set off the spam filter. That's never been a problem for me before.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I yanked your evil spammish comments from the spam filter. ;)

It probably was the links, but I have no idea. The spam filter is a wee bit finicky.

BevfromNYC said...

Tryanmax - You know the one thing you won't hear from Romney if/when he wins..."It's Obama's fault!".

T-Rav said...

Okay guys, time to set down the drinking rules for tonight.

One drink if:

-Biden uses the word "literally."
-Ryan has to discuss the "47 percent" thing in any way.
-Biden talks about how much he loves Amtrak.
-The moderator asks what the candidates will do about green jobs.

Five shots or a whole bottle if:

-Ryan is asked about the WAR ON WOMEN.
-Biden has anything like the equivalent of a telling-a-guy-in-a-wheelchair-to-stand-up gaffe.

And lastly, make sure you have the paramedics on speed dial. Or a stomach pump handy.

tryanmax said...

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to double-post. I also had my computer go crazy so I assumed the first one never went through.

rlaWTX said...

Bev, glad I could make you smile...

BevfromNYC said...

T-Rav - Is it okay if I'm already...let's just say..."three sheets to the wind"? I have just assumed Biden will say "literally" about hundred times and he will tow the party line on "Benghazi was a man-made disaster brought on by something that was not a film. Why, however did you get THAT idea??".

Individualist said...

I saw an article on Fox News

Evidently if you search "completely wrong" you get Mitt Romney...

Guys at google say nothing they can do about it cause Romeny admitted he was completely wrong in a speech.....

Orwell strikes again

T-Rav said...

Bev, it will increase the risk of severe alcohol poisoning, but there's no rules against beginning your consumption before the debate, no.

And personally, I think it's more likely for Biden to say something like, "You'd be surprised how many Muslims are actually clean, bright, articulate fellows, not at all like the ones over there."

Individualist said...

Remember you take two drinks every time the moderator makes a speech instead of asking a question

Joel Farnham said...

On the drinking game, what happens if Joe Biden exceeds all expectations and demolishes Ryan. Does that mean drinking the whole bottle?

Individualist said...

At this point in the manufactured narrative are we celbrating Obama being a Muslim or is calling him a Muslim forbidden...

I forget...

T-Rav said...

Joel, that means replacing the liquor in your bottle with rubbing alcohol, and then drinking the whole thing.

AndrewPrice said...

Indi, If you take two drinks every time the moderator makes a speech, then you will die about 45 minutes into the debate of alcohol poisoning!

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, If Biden demolishes Ryan, then we riot and burn down Detroit.

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, There is no Benghazi. It's all a lie created by Team Romney to scare people into ignoring Ryan's plan to turn old people into Soylent Green.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, I am not taking a ten-hour bus ride just to get to a place where there's nothing left to burn. I suggest Philadelphia, I don't like their sports fans anyway.

Joel Farnham said...

Off topic maybe,

Obama just removed his Michigan HQ from Michigan. Citing not enough volunteers.

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, I'm up for burning Philly. Make it so... :)

Individualist said...

Andrew

That must be their evil plan all along

The Fiends!

AndrewPrice said...

Joel, THAT. . . IS. . . HILARIOUS!

Joel Farnham said...

On burning down Detroit, can I send a drone?

rlaWTX said...

since burning down Detroit doesn't have a downside, can it really be called a riot?

Joe Biden said...

Hey, I just heard there's some political debate thingy going on tonight! Tell your friends!

tryanmax said...

AndrewPicard, captain of the U.S.S. Commentaramaprise. And T-Rav, his #2. LOL!

tryanmax said...

Joe, that sounds like a big f*ing deal!

T-Rav said...

rlaWTX, I believe the proper term in that case would be, "urban renewal project."

T-Rav said...

New rule that just occurred to me: I'm the only one who gets to do the Paul Ryan "Hey girl" sockpuppet when he comes on the stage. It's going to look really stupid if we all do it at once.

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, Probably not, but it seems like the thing to do when things go wrong... or right.


And T-Rav, Yes, this is urban renewal with extreme prejudice.

BevfromNYC said...

Andrew - Should I book my ticket to Detroit nooooooow...or wait until 9:16??

rlaWTX said...

can we still do it if Ryan wins?

BevfromNYC said...

Of course, T-Rav - you have just indicated that we should ALL do the "Hey, Girl" sockpuppet, you know, right? I will take "Hey, girl" sockpuppet #4, okay?

T-Rav said...

Pre-debate poll: Of the following, what's the worst to watch on TV tonight?

a) A potential Biden victory
b) The Yankees game
c) The Pittsburgh Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger in particular

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, Sure. There's no crime in burning down Detroit, so do it whenever you want!

Bev, Book now to get the lower fares! ;)

T-Rav said...

rla, you already know the answer to that. Haven't you ever seen fans of the winning team rioting after the big game? Those are some awesome "World's Wildest Police Videos" episodes, let me tell you....

Kit said...

I don't think it will be a slam dunk like last week.

Biden is not as coddled as Obama is. If Ryan wins, it will certainly be closer than last week's victory.

T-Rav said...

Bev, IT'S MINE! ALL MINE!!!!

AndrewPrice said...

T-Rav, Yankees? Is that some sort of Civil War show? ;)

BevfromNYC said...

T-Rav - That is a HORRIBLE poll!!! Dear God, man what are you thinking?? Each one is worse the former! Maybe if you'd included "Real Housewives of...say...New Jersey", it wouldn't be so bad. BUt seriously!

rlaWTX said...

Andrew, they had a bit part in GWTW

T-Rav said...

It's a sober Diane Sawyer!

Paul Ryan said...

Hey girl....

tryanmax said...

Did anyone else pop corn?

BevfromNYC said...

Okay, are they sitting because Joe can't stand and speak at the same time, or what?

T-Rav said...

I take it back. I think this woman is slightly tipsy, or something.

AndrewPrice said...

She's a pretty horrible moderator. No gravitas.

Kit said...

First question is on Benghazi.

rlaWTX said...

yep, Bev

a tragedy???? that's it! oh brother!

AndrewPrice said...

Why do I not believe a word Joe is saying?

rlaWTX said...

did Joe answer the Q??

Hey Girl #4 said...

Hi Paul!

T-Rav said...

Usually, if the FBI gets to the crime scene within 20 to 30 days of the crime being actually committed, that's a slam-dunk for catching the criminals.

tryanmax said...

And let me turn the question to you, Mr. Ryan. Why won't you let the Benghazi thing go? What's your deal?

Individualist said...

Massive Intelligence Failure is the New Big Lie

T-Rav said...

GOD! WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!

rlaWTX said...

OMGOMG I might not make it to the end of the first answer!

BevfromNYC said...

Andrew: because Biden's lips are moving...

Joe Biden said...

Remember everyone, Bin Laden is alive and GM is dead. Er...that doesn't sound right....

rlaWTX said...

I heart Paul!

tryanmax said...

Yes, because Romney not only is capable of declaring war, but he did so, too. Hard!

BevfromNYC said...

Really JOe? The last thing we need is another war? Then why did we send troops to Jordan today??

Paul Ryan said...

Let me put my facts in you.

rlaWTX said...

good point about blame!

T-Rav said...

Bev, I would like to inform you that you are a racist, sexist, homophobe, and hater of poor people for bringing that up. Also, it's not true.

tryanmax said...

Okay, Paul, that just sounds wrong. But it feels so right!

AndrewPrice said...

Nice. Ryan did a good job...

and the moderator counter attacks.

T-Rav said...

Yeah, this gal's not biased at all....

AndrewPrice said...

Joe needs to stop looking like he wants to laugh.

tryanmax said...

T-Rav, she's probably a misogynist and an anti-Semite, too. lol

rlaWTX said...

good slide into defense - and rude Joe!

Individualist said...

yes was that really appropriate....

Joe Biden said...

"Specific" means "wordy," right?

BevfromNYC said...

T-Rav - It's true. I'm a hater et al. So, sue me.

tryanmax said...

Nevermind that Romney's statement turned out to be accurate.

rlaWTX said...

repaired alliances = bowing?

T-Rav said...

Wait, which alliances are those? With England? Israel? Anyone?

Individualist said...

the congressman never passed his budget - remember

rlaWTX said...

Oh let's replay Issa's hearing!

AndrewPrice said...

So it's the CIAs fault?

tryanmax said...

Absolutely transparent. Joe is trying to copy Mitt. Trouble is, it doesn't work if you're the one telling the lies.

T-Rav said...

No, they told you up front what was happening. In fact, they predicted it 2-3 months before.

tryanmax said...

Obama/Biden 2012: The buck stops somewhere. Probably. Just not with us.

rlaWTX said...

If it becomes apparent that I have gone into seizures, will one of y'all call 911?

Patti said...

since i just found out about Law, i want this win even more. tear joe up, ryan!

Joel Farnham said...

So, now it is the intelligence community is responsible.

AndrewPrice said...

Ryan needs to fight back more. He can't let this become 2 on 1.

tryanmax said...

Nice face, Joe!

rlaWTX said...

apologies - seriously that's a question???? why aren't they asking why he apologizes so much instead of why shouldn't we apologize?

T-Rav said...

Joe Biden looks constipated to me.

BevfromNYC said...

Yes, tryanmax, I hate women and Jews too. Of course, I'm a woman and a Jew, but that shouldn't matter...because well, it's obvious.

AndrewPrice said...

Ryan needs to stop her from cutting him off.

tryanmax said...

Was that even a sentence?

BevfromNYC said...

Ryan is about to make a good point and the moderator says "Let's move on"? Are you kidding me?

T-Rav said...

I'm not a fan of these sit-down debates. It drains all the energy from the room.

rlaWTX said...

they are less intense

Individualist said...

So by my count she's given thwo speechs and cut off Ryan once

AndrewPrice said...

Joe is an asshole. That's just rude.

tryanmax said...

Sit down was probably selected b/c it helps Joe. I think it does.

T-Rav said...

Andrew, don't worry, I'm sure she'll be cutting Biden off halfway through his points too. (facepalm)

Joel Farnham said...

Biden better stop smiling. This isn't a smiling situation.

rlaWTX said...

OK - have to admit Ryan's not answering...

tryanmax said...

Biden is just hamming it up. It's ridiculous.

rlaWTX said...

because having these sanctions is stopping Iran... right?

T-Rav said...

I'm starting to see a pattern in Biden's responses here. Step 1: Smile and show off all 80 teeth near the end of the opponent's remarks. Step 2: Say the opposite of whatever's factual. Step 3: Repeat.

tryanmax said...

Not my purview to talk about classified info. Total card-waving. Grr.

rlaWTX said...

yeah right - Israel and US are in the same place on what again?

Neville Chamberlain said...

All this talk of Hitler unilaterally invading other countries is just bluster and politically motivated.

tryanmax said...

I'm afraid Biden will win if he manages to get a rebuttal to everything Ryan says regardless if it's true.

Kit said...

Ryan's biggest problem: The answer to the Iranian issue is the answer no one wants to hear.

rlaWTX said...

Thank you for explaining this, Neville. I feel so much better!

Ryan - good explaining of "credible"

AndrewPrice said...

Is she drunk?

Patti said...

i have said i thought joe might win this one, based on his experience. ryan has more passion that joe, but i'm hoping he also brings some heat.

T-Rav said...

Oh, this bulls*** again? Iran's the one with the bomb.

tryanmax said...

I already despise this woman.

rlaWTX said...

Oh God - I hate Biden!

T-Rav said...

And that usually drives leaders like the Ayatollah to desperation. Idiot.

rlaWTX said...

name dropping Bebe???

tryanmax said...

I see Joe's (and Martha's) strategy now. He's trying to look like the adult at the table. She's picking arguments with Paul to make it look like he's arguing with her. Pretty slick.

Kit said...

"The choice that no one else can make, the right choice."

T-Rav said...

Ryan's going to have to get mean. He's got to steamroll Biden and make him look like an idiot.

rlaWTX said...

yeah, but who is willing to sell a weapon to Iran!!!!????!!!!

tryanmax said...

Trouble is, most people would rather believe Biden even if Ryan is correct.

Kit said...

I'm having trouble following Biden.

rlaWTX said...

another hour of Biden thinking he knows what facts are...????

AndrewPrice said...

Joe strikes me as a salesman who is trying to split hairs.

T-Rav said...

Fun fact: You can change reality by enunciating and loudly insisting that the opposite is true.

Kit said...

Was that question to Biden of Ryan?

tryanmax said...

I'm trying to decide: do you think Joe's face-making will sit well or poorly with viewers at home?

Individualist said...

Yes Joe because the mechanical device that any first year physics grad student can make at home is the hardest thing to get...

Enriched weapons grade unranium or plutonium hek - that's easy

rlaWTX said...

last resort - duh!!

who's arguing about getting rid of the sanctions??

AndrewPrice said...

Joe is laughing at the idea that everyone in the middle east having nuclear weapons is a bad thing.

T-Rav said...

Very true: He only bluffs when talking to Republicans.

Patti said...

tmax: his faces are condescending. like paul is an ideal child. and for the record, it's like they're all close-talkers. give us podiums!

Biden said...

It's all Bush's fault.

tryanmax said...

Bush's fault! Everybody drink!

rlaWTX said...

facts, you keep using that word, I don't thin it means what you thin it means...

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