Monday, October 22, 2012

Final Debate Thread


Home stretch people, home stretch. Tonight is the last debate. . . thankfully. Tonight is about foreign policy, which probably means ratings of between 14-18 people. In that regard, we now have a CIA memo which blows a hole in the Obama Administration plan to blame the intelligence community. Obama seems to have decided that less than 4 deaths per embassy is optimal. And Joe Biden is looking for veterans of our recent wars with Iraq and Iran. . . idiot.

It looks like Obama wasn't able to gain any momentum from the last debate so tonight could be critical. Maybe he should talk about the 47% of Pakistanis Romney hates. . . or the 57 states he's visited since he became a professional golfer president.

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AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, I don't think it went over well because it was snide and childish.

Notawonk said...

WHERE IS MY EFFIN HELMET?!

Jen said...

Bayonets? Well, that's just mean. So are pitchforks :D

rlaWTX said...

"stand with Israel" isn't the same thing!

Jon said...

BO & Israel . . .no not working for me.

tryanmax said...

He won't go beyond "we will stand with Israel." Just noting a subtle shift of the terms Bob put in the question.

T-Rav said...

Notice he didn't say he would stand by Israel in all circumstances.

Oh, and hello again all.

T-Rav said...

How's the debate been going? Clearly Obama is being a bloviated dunce, as usual.

rlaWTX said...

welcome, T-Rav, we're having FUN! (not)

BevfromNYC said...

Okay, Romney is talking about how we have less ships than we've had since 1917 and Obama counters that with something about horses and bayonets and how Romney doesn't understand things like "aircraft carriers" and stuff. Is he listening to Romney?

AndrewPrice said...

"We cannot afford to have a nuclear arms race in the most volatile region in the world.”

Funny... when Ryan said this, Biden called him crazy and laughed at him.

rlaWTX said...

when...

Jon said...

So, sanctions worked. (no) Harms way? Put up, or shut up, BO

BevfromNYC said...

Obama will not say "We have Israel's back". Romney did.

T-Rav said...

Horses and bayonets? What? Did I miss something, or is this the 1812 presidential debate?

tryanmax said...

Bev, didn't you hear? Oceans are being phased out.

T-Rav said...

Well, it sounds to me like a repeat of the second debate, more or less. Obama is not being a narcoleptic, but Romney is still sounding like a very competent person. Am I missing anything?

BevfromNYC said...

Tryan - Oooh, so the seas have receded and we dont' need no stinkin' Navy!

AndrewPrice said...

Romney continues to show that he's got deeper thoughts and more knowledge on every issue.

rlaWTX said...

yeah, except TOTUS is a bigger jackass than normal.

Global Warming said...

Phased out with extreme prejudice, no less.

Jon said...

Oh yes the UN. Disband them.

Joel Farnham said...

The talks with Iran are not true. By Friday, Obama will be talking to Iran.

rlaWTX said...

OK - is BO snarkier than usual???

tryanmax said...

Isn't saying the same thing louder Obama's strategy. I guess you can always count on a Democrat to project onto a Republican.

T-Rav said...

Blah blah blah....the sad thing is some people believe what he's saying.

AndrewPrice said...

Obama keeps taking childish shots at Romney that don't fit with his veneer of being professional and adult.

Tam said...

rlaWTX, I think so, and it is unattractive.

BevfromNYC said...

Romney needs to be careful not to smirk too much...

Notawonk said...

tick-tock...two more weeks!

T-Rav said...

Mr. Obama, I knew Henry Kissinger, and you, sir, are no Henry Kissinger.

tryanmax said...

Henry Kissinger! WOOT!

rlaWTX said...

excellent, T-Rav!

T-Rav said...

Here's a conundrum. If he uses a past-tense form of "Let me be clear," do we still drink?

Joel Farnham said...

Obama has been so clear to Iran that they already have enough fissionable material for at least one bomb.

Jon said...

BO, just got really boring . . . Mitt, clean it up for us/

tryanmax said...

T-Rav, yes, but also in the past tense.

rlaWTX said...

excellent coupling of Chavez & Castro with NorK & Iran!!!!!!!!!

Barack Obama said...

Boy, is it hard to keep this smirk plastered on my face.

AndrewPrice said...

Honestly, I don't think Romney's attacks based on four years ago work that well.

tryanmax said...

I may have a bias, but Romney is the more compelling, engaging speaker tonight.

Jon said...

Threat of Parking lot.

Tam said...

I never apologized! Wha???

T-Rav said...

Er, Mr. President? I have a Saudi prince on line one who would like a word with you.

Joel Farnham said...

Apology tour didn't happen. What?!

rlaWTX said...

Joel, if he was any clearer, Iran would have a full-fledged bomb.

SERIOUSLY!!!! he's going to deny apologizing??????

BevfromNYC said...

We've decided. We don't like you Mr. Obama...

No you were not clear Mr. Obama during the Iranian Spring.

T-Rav said...

When? When were you clear about this? I don't remember you ever being clear about the Iranian Revolution being a good thing (or anything else, for that matter).

AndrewPrice said...

Actually, the world gave up after trying a bunch of stuff and failing.

AndrewPrice said...

"You skipped Israel." BANG!!

tryanmax said...

Hmm, I just noticed that the screen divider on NBC is a red, white, and blue ribbon. Nice touch.

Jon said...

Appeaser. With Israel or not?

Tam said...

Nice, Mitt. He's firm and strong.

rlaWTX said...

Romney is explaining TOTUS' actions to him!!!

Notawonk said...

FREED OTHER NATIONS! Truth bomb'd!

T-Rav said...

Oh boy. Here it comes...."let's not dwell on the past."

rlaWTX said...

when he was a candidate, TOTUS was tougher than as Pres!!!

T-Rav said...

What are the odds on whether any of this is true? I'm thinking 6-to-1.

tryanmax said...

Enter "World-Citizen Obama."

Or is it racist to say that?

Tam said...

Ha ha ha ha ha...how I've used my travels. Hoo-boy! Not fundraising. Pfffttt...snort. Oh my.

rlaWTX said...

tryanmax, it's always racist unless you're a liberal!

Jon said...

BO's track record? Was that what they thought in Libya, Afghanistan?

T-Rav said...

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.

AndrewPrice said...

Brilliant answer by Romney.

rlaWTX said...

stick to your guns, Mitt!

T-Rav said...

This is a pretty solid performance by Romney. More facts and everything. Too bad most people are off watching ball games.

Jon said...

It's not cold war, its real war

rlaWTX said...

TOTUS is going to sprain his smirk if he keeps using it...

Barack Obama said...

Eh-eh-eh-eh, er-er-er, ah-ah-ah.

T-Rav said...

Zzzzzzzz.....

AndrewPrice said...

I don't think Obama's "you said the other thing" attacks aren't working. They sound like political distortions.

BevfromNYC said...

What is Obama talking about? Is he flailing just a little?

rlaWTX said...

BIN LADEN!!!!!!

T-Rav said...

Is that like Pok-e-mon?

Jon said...

Drink!

AndrewPrice said...

Obama SUPERHAWK now exploits 9/11... something he used to accuse Bush of doing.

Notawonk said...

i'm out, as always it's a joy to call barry out with you folks!

rlaWTX said...

Pok-e-mon is just north of Pak-e-stan

T-Rav said...

Wow, he's really waving this bloody shirt. Gee, I remember this sort of thing being bad when Bush was president.

Jen said...

There he goes again. BIN LADEN.

tryanmax said...

So the president's job is closure for Payton. At least we now know what guides his foreign policy. It's Payton.

AndrewPrice said...

Killing Osama was not popular?

Tennessee Jed said...

couple of overall observations - it seems like Obama almost always is allowed the last word, but maybe not.

Second, I wish Romney had schooled Obama on the economy. Obie's saying the math doesn't work out fails to realize the additional revenue one gets through real job creation. Oh well . . . .

rlaWTX said...

very gracious response to that slap-back...

tryanmax said...

Andrew, I'm glad that slipped by me. I could be dead now.

AndrewPrice said...

rlaWTX, Ironically, Obama did ask for permission from Pok-e-man. They refused.

BevfromNYC said...

Obama pulled a Bush - He trotted 9/11 victims AND bin Laden out...boo, hoo.

T-Rav said...

Well, there went Obama's very last shred of dignity.

AndrewPrice said...

tryanmax, It left a bruise on my hippocampus.

Tam said...

It's Pah-kee-stahn, Mitt. Pah-kee-stahn.

rlaWTX said...

the Tracy-Hepburn movie on TCM is very tempting...

AndrewPrice said...

Romney has a ton of knowledge on every single country and he presents it like he really understands it. He comes across as VERY credible.

T-Rav said...

Obama/Biden 2012: For Payton.

BevfromNYC said...

My brain is hurting...make them stop talking!!!

rlaWTX said...

OH - if it's for Payton!!!!

T-Rav said...

Anyone looking to see how the Cardinals are doing? (If it's bad, don't tell me.)

rlaWTX said...

HAHAHA "pulling out responsibly"

AndrewPrice said...

Why does this sound like a beer commercial? "Pull our responsibly."

T-Rav said...

Our high-speed rail?

tryanmax said...

T-Rav, I can almost hear the dramatic music.

Barrack Stalin said...

Labor camps for Veterans!!

T-Rav said...

I could make a really vulgar joke using that line, but...no. No, I won't.

tryanmax said...

rlaWTX, Andrew, that doesn't always work. So I'm told...

Jon said...

Loose and sad assertion about unemployment.

rlaWTX said...

T-Rav, I already laughed at the joke you didn't tell...

AndrewPrice said...

Twenty more minutes people... suck it up. You can make it.

AndrewPrice said...

If we divorce Pakistan, they can keep the kids.

BevfromNYC said...

Wow, Sheiffer brought up the doctor who help get bin Laden. Do you think Obama will address that?

rlaWTX said...

Andrew, it huuuuurts!!!!!

tryanmax said...

By "suck it up" I assume you mean the booze. Can do, Andrew. Can do.

AndrewPrice said...

Hang in there rlaWTX... this build character.

T-Rav said...

Romney throws Obama a bone. Watch Obama take it and belt him over the head with it.

AndrewPrice said...

Never use a drone unless you have a good queen.

T-Rav said...

Heck, Pakistan can keep the kids and everything, so long as it's all radioactive.

BevfromNYC said...

This is where I have issues - drones.

tryanmax said...

Do you hear that? That's the sound of all the newspaper writers tearing up their "Romney clueless on Middle East" stories that were set to print. Too bad.

rlaWTX said...

I've already seen the movie on TCM and it's tempting... not the best Tracy-Hepburn movie either...

Jon said...

Bravo wrap up, Mitt!

T-Rav said...

rla, you've got a dirty mind.

tryanmax, I think you underestimate the newspaper writers.

tryanmax said...

Yeah, but both Tracy and Hepburn are far easier on the eyes than anyone on this show.

AndrewPrice said...

I dare Obama to name one since time he's actually done that.

Malala said...

(raises hand)....um?

rlaWTX said...

Dealing with extremism in Yemen & Somalia??? Yeah, that's why they attack our embassies and float pirates...

"This nation, ME" GACK!!!!!

BevfromNYC said...

Did he just say "Me"? That was kinda unpresidential...

T-Rav said...

Me, me, me. The final rallying cry of the Obama administration.

Anonymous said...

Wow, plenty of energy there, great to hear the description about Pakistan. Yes, it's strained, but with the long answer there, he (Romney) still shows more knowledge about what he's talking about...

Sheesh! To think that he's actually debating the president here?!!!

Jon said...

Our debt.

Tam said...

I thought obesity was the greatest security threat. Mooch is going to be maaaad...

AndrewPrice said...

So our greatest national security threat is China... unless it isn't.

T-Rav said...

"The Audacity of Me": The upcoming book of Barack Obama's life, written by the man himself.

tryanmax said...

Hmm, so after all that bashing of Romney for having investments in China, Obama declares China a potential partner. Ohhhhhh-kaaaayyyyy

AndrewPrice said...

Bev, I don't think that "Me" is going to go over too well.

T-Rav said...

Read in awe as Obama sprang fully formed from the forehead of Zeus, proclaiming the need for liberty throughout all the land.

Jen said...

Tam, didn't Dr. Oz and Oprah say that?

BTO said...

Takin' care of business!

Joel Farnham said...

Wow, now Obama is going for a Great Depression.

BevfromNYC said...

Hey, he saved the US for tires...what about Apple and all those slaves who made Obama's Iphone and IPad that he reads all of his security briefings on...

Tam said...

jen, probably. But I'm pretty sure FLOTUS said it too.

T-Rav said...

Gasp as Obama, realizing the world was not ready for his greatness, reincarnated himself, re-emerging in 1962 to deliver himself from a woman's womb, then congratulate the doctor on being there just in case.

AndrewPrice said...

Romney just schooled Obama on China.

rlaWTX said...

I stopped listening...

Jon said...

debt!

T-Rav said...

Stand enraptured as the power that is Obama's mind bursts forth to overawe the people at Harvard and Occidental College, so much so that they admitted him without needing to look at his records or indeed keep any of their own.

BevfromNYC said...

I would have to say that Romney has had more to say than Obama...

Jon said...

They're killing our pets!

T-Rav said...

"The Audacity of Me": Get it in bookstores soon, or with a donation tonight to his campaign, Obama will send the contents to you telepathically, with the power of his mind. Of. His. Mind.

Tam said...

a bet on american union workers. Asshole.

AndrewPrice said...

BAD ANSWER BY OBAMA. He's got no plan on China and he just admitted that.

Jen said...

Tam, I looked it up. Moochelle agreed with Dr. Oz, and he said it first. I know where I got Oprah from, he started on her show.

BevfromNYC said...

Obama we're buying cars from Japan, not China...

T-Rav said...

Well, that was a nice distraction. Now what is Obama babbling on about?

tryanmax said...

Or, and I'm just spitballing here, we could lower corporate tax rates here to incentivize business locating here. Oh, but that's just silly.

rlaWTX said...

silly tryanmax...

Tam said...

Jen, I concede. But I was part right. Whoever said it and whoever repeated it is a jackass. All bases covered.

T-Rav said...

Tam, I think technically it was a bet on Fiat.

AndrewPrice said...

Obama's lips move, but he never says anything.

BevfromNYC said...

Why does Obama keep saying how "clear" he has been when he has been the least clear on ANYTHING!

tryanmax said...

RE: Cars, I'm planning to by Korean. So I guess I've got no dog in.

T-Rav said...

....Policies aren't for Obama!

rlaWTX said...

Bev, I could quote the Princess Bride, but T-Rav frowns on that...

Tennessee Jed said...

Obama: we've been working with countries to do things like let ships pass through.

AndrewPrice said...

And Romney kills Obama's Detroit point. It's now lost in the weeds.

rlaWTX said...

"height of silliness"

T-Rav said...

rla, as...you...wish....

tryanmax said...

Bev, he knows he isn't clear and he's begging for help. "Let me be clear, please, oh please, let me be clear! Why won't anyone stop me from obfuscating?"

Jon said...

BO sounds really weak, here.

T-Rav said...

Ouch!

rlaWTX said...

I like Mitt Romney more than I did yesterday...

AndrewPrice said...

FIVE MINUTES WOO HOO!!!

Jen said...

Tam, Agreed! On the JACKASS part. It doesn't matter who said it, it was stupid. I remember hearing it, so I wanted to check to make sure I said it right. We both win.:)

Joel Farnham said...

Schieffer is doing great tonight. I am happy about that. Obama is a stupid head.

rlaWTX said...

T-Rav, more like "... you keep using that word..."

Jon said...

HE IS NOT IRAN!!!!!

Barack Obama said...

But seriously, don't look it up. I don't actually want you to do that.

AndrewPrice said...

Jon, That's because he's trying to split hairs down in the weeds.

tryanmax said...

So, basically Obama's argument is that bankruptcy doesn't work like bankruptcy?

Tam said...

Jen, DRINK! Or is that not part of the game?

rlaWTX said...

I also like Spencer Tracy... and Kate Hepburn...

AndrewPrice said...

And here we go again with the Romney's plan stinks bit.

BevfromNYC said...

Obama does not understand what "bankruptcy" means. He needs to drop the "Romney wanted GM to go bankrupt" meme. It's a loser.

T-Rav said...

Is this idiot done talking yet? I keep hearing the same thing--"policies of the past," "tax cuts," yada yada yada.

AndrewPrice said...

Obama just stepped into this. Every time Romney goes through this list, Obama takes it in the shorts.

Joel Farnham said...

Slam Obama again! Wow.

BevfromNYC said...

How did we get back to domestic policy?

Jen said...

Tam, if you want to include it, fine, but I'm not drinking tonight, sorry.

Tam said...

DONE! almost.

T-Rav said...

From you, we've only heard two debates.

tryanmax said...

Holy Cow is Obama rehearsed on his closing statement!

AndrewPrice said...

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!! IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!

BevfromNYC said...

I have to say Bob did the best. He didn't interfere and kept the debate kind of on track.

tryanmax said...

The jobs of tomorrow that aren't here today.

T-Rav said...

Mr. President, you ARE the weakest link. Good-bye.

Jon said...

Yes, lie some more, BO. Investment comes from those who invest.

rlaWTX said...

AWESOME, T-Rav!

AndrewPrice said...

Yawn.

tryanmax said...

One thing I wish Romney would have said is how straight up silly it is to educate people for jobs that just aren't there.

Jen said...

What happened with the 'shovel ready jobs'? Why are you still wanting to rebuild roads and bridges?

BevfromNYC said...

No you won't, Mr. Obama. You will not fight for me. You've made it clear you do not like me.

tryanmax said...

Shall we have a Commentarama straw-poll. I say Romney by a neck.

T-Rav said...

Nice closing statement right there.

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